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<blockquote data-quote="TerryMiller" data-source="post: 2415641" data-attributes="member: 7900"><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I'm sure that the mention of one name will inflame some, but I'll do it anyway. Glenn Beck has been pretty good with describing the differences in the political philosophies. Instead of using the label "liberal" for those that are supportive of removing people's rights, he uses the phrase "progressive." Progressives can be members of either the Democratic Party or the Republican Party. I'd even suspect that some that would call themselves independents and libertarians might even be progressives.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Sadly, the progressive philosophy was actually started by Teddy Roosevelt. Progressives have no problem with government control, and it is a good example of why the Republican Party is feuding within itself, with the "establishment" folks fighting with the "tea party" type politicians and candidates. People like McCain, and to some degree, Romney, could be referred to as progressives if they are still leaning toward controlling people via government.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I've had discussions with many people that did not want to call themselves "liberal" because they had begun to feel uncomfortable. However, many of them confused the term "progressive," thinking that it meant more along the lines that they were more likely to be willing to try new things. When I asked them if they would then support school vouchers, they then tended to stammer because it has generally been the conservatives that want that to at least be tried.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I've certainly had my differences with members of OSA that differed from my conservative philosophies, but at no time have I felt that they were any more "evil" than I am. As for political parties, Oklahoma is a good example of a state where a lot of Democrats are actually conservative and vote that way. However, I think that most of the gun control ideas have been advanced by those that I refer to as progressives. Liberalism has been wrongly labeled from what the classic meaning was. Many who call themselves "liberal" now are far from the classic meaning.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TerryMiller, post: 2415641, member: 7900"] [FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]I'm sure that the mention of one name will inflame some, but I'll do it anyway. Glenn Beck has been pretty good with describing the differences in the political philosophies. Instead of using the label "liberal" for those that are supportive of removing people's rights, he uses the phrase "progressive." Progressives can be members of either the Democratic Party or the Republican Party. I'd even suspect that some that would call themselves independents and libertarians might even be progressives. Sadly, the progressive philosophy was actually started by Teddy Roosevelt. Progressives have no problem with government control, and it is a good example of why the Republican Party is feuding within itself, with the "establishment" folks fighting with the "tea party" type politicians and candidates. People like McCain, and to some degree, Romney, could be referred to as progressives if they are still leaning toward controlling people via government. I've had discussions with many people that did not want to call themselves "liberal" because they had begun to feel uncomfortable. However, many of them confused the term "progressive," thinking that it meant more along the lines that they were more likely to be willing to try new things. When I asked them if they would then support school vouchers, they then tended to stammer because it has generally been the conservatives that want that to at least be tried. I've certainly had my differences with members of OSA that differed from my conservative philosophies, but at no time have I felt that they were any more "evil" than I am. As for political parties, Oklahoma is a good example of a state where a lot of Democrats are actually conservative and vote that way. However, I think that most of the gun control ideas have been advanced by those that I refer to as progressives. Liberalism has been wrongly labeled from what the classic meaning was. Many who call themselves "liberal" now are far from the classic meaning. [/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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