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<blockquote data-quote="p238shooter" data-source="post: 3690745" data-attributes="member: 24583"><p>Snattlerake: I saw they let the balloon down this morning out in the ocean off the Atlantic coast. It seems they have experience with less damage to let it drop in the water and pick it up by boat rather than taking it down over land to get punctured and torn up by trees, power lines, liability, etc. since it is so huge, and stuff like that. Pretty amazing flight. Interesting its path across the Mississippi River south of St. Louis almost identical to what I have flown many times to avoid the hassle of flying through "St. Louis" airspace from the Tulsa area to Indiana and back many times. </p><p></p><p>I also have been enjoying watching the air traffic controllers at the FedX hub in Memphis. For those of you who might be interested, Memphis is now 2nd in the world for the number of take offs and landings per year. And just for a little Oklahoma history, back about 50 years ago, Riverside airport (Now Jones airport, Riverside tower, soon to be changed back to Riverside airport because of the 30-40 year political confusion) just outside of Tulsa was at one time #2 in the world for take offs and landings per year with all the flight training that went on due to Spartain aviation who has trained thousands of pilots world wide. Both Good and Bad guys. Yep I have lots of stories, was in a bar in Cancun MX talking with a guy who started MyPie pizza in Tulsa while doing flight training here for the Mexican Air Force. They yanked his Mixican Visa. Some might remember it oddly closing one day. He was not supposed to open and own a business here with his visa regulations. Guess times have changed. I won't get into other language dialects trying to figure out the aircraft positions they were reporting to try to avoid traffic I tried to decipher.</p><p></p><p>Back to my original post about the ADS-B Exchange site. Last Thursday evening between 10 and 12PM, actually it obviously was going on longer than that, I saw more than a lot of traffic at the FedX hub in the Memphis area on this great website Snattlerake shared for those interested in aviation. (Clicked on "U" to get rid of clutter to move and see where you are looking), and I Zoomed in. Unclicked "u" to see all air traffic. There were more than 70 FedX planes from at least 100 miles out lined up in an X pattern outside the "official" 30 mile radius "Memphis Airspace" where they were sequencing in from four different directions. Obviously the IFR ATC flight planners were on top of this. Not just "getting them to the ring" and they are on their own with Approach Control, but sequencing them in from way out a hundred miles or more. Once inside the 30 mile ring, Approach Control was pairing them up with spacing for others to join from the opposite directions for sequencing for handoff. They were then being handed off to "Tower" control be sequenced into the Memphis Tower pattern (usually a 5 mile radius) to land 2 at a time on their parallel runways. I only saw one plane have to abort close to touchdown because the plane in front of him could not get off the runway onto the stacked up taxiway turnoff quick enough because of a ground taxiway bottleneck. It was a symphonic masterpiece of cordination of flights from all over the US. </p><p></p><p>It was certainly not that busy this evening (Monday night). I have not watched this long enough to have history to see if the traffic increases later in the week, but this is certainly one of my "take a look" sites as I am piddling on my computer. It is also interesting for me to watch the flight patterns of the local Tulsa Police helicopter. Again thanks for sharing this site for those who enjoy flapping our wings.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="p238shooter, post: 3690745, member: 24583"] Snattlerake: I saw they let the balloon down this morning out in the ocean off the Atlantic coast. It seems they have experience with less damage to let it drop in the water and pick it up by boat rather than taking it down over land to get punctured and torn up by trees, power lines, liability, etc. since it is so huge, and stuff like that. Pretty amazing flight. Interesting its path across the Mississippi River south of St. Louis almost identical to what I have flown many times to avoid the hassle of flying through "St. Louis" airspace from the Tulsa area to Indiana and back many times. I also have been enjoying watching the air traffic controllers at the FedX hub in Memphis. For those of you who might be interested, Memphis is now 2nd in the world for the number of take offs and landings per year. And just for a little Oklahoma history, back about 50 years ago, Riverside airport (Now Jones airport, Riverside tower, soon to be changed back to Riverside airport because of the 30-40 year political confusion) just outside of Tulsa was at one time #2 in the world for take offs and landings per year with all the flight training that went on due to Spartain aviation who has trained thousands of pilots world wide. Both Good and Bad guys. Yep I have lots of stories, was in a bar in Cancun MX talking with a guy who started MyPie pizza in Tulsa while doing flight training here for the Mexican Air Force. They yanked his Mixican Visa. Some might remember it oddly closing one day. He was not supposed to open and own a business here with his visa regulations. Guess times have changed. I won't get into other language dialects trying to figure out the aircraft positions they were reporting to try to avoid traffic I tried to decipher. Back to my original post about the ADS-B Exchange site. Last Thursday evening between 10 and 12PM, actually it obviously was going on longer than that, I saw more than a lot of traffic at the FedX hub in the Memphis area on this great website Snattlerake shared for those interested in aviation. (Clicked on "U" to get rid of clutter to move and see where you are looking), and I Zoomed in. Unclicked "u" to see all air traffic. There were more than 70 FedX planes from at least 100 miles out lined up in an X pattern outside the "official" 30 mile radius "Memphis Airspace" where they were sequencing in from four different directions. Obviously the IFR ATC flight planners were on top of this. Not just "getting them to the ring" and they are on their own with Approach Control, but sequencing them in from way out a hundred miles or more. Once inside the 30 mile ring, Approach Control was pairing them up with spacing for others to join from the opposite directions for sequencing for handoff. They were then being handed off to "Tower" control be sequenced into the Memphis Tower pattern (usually a 5 mile radius) to land 2 at a time on their parallel runways. I only saw one plane have to abort close to touchdown because the plane in front of him could not get off the runway onto the stacked up taxiway turnoff quick enough because of a ground taxiway bottleneck. It was a symphonic masterpiece of cordination of flights from all over the US. It was certainly not that busy this evening (Monday night). I have not watched this long enough to have history to see if the traffic increases later in the week, but this is certainly one of my "take a look" sites as I am piddling on my computer. It is also interesting for me to watch the flight patterns of the local Tulsa Police helicopter. Again thanks for sharing this site for those who enjoy flapping our wings. [/QUOTE]
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