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<blockquote data-quote="ConstitutionCowboy" data-source="post: 3850107" data-attributes="member: 745"><p>Look at the Fourteenth Amendment, Section 4, The first sentence, to wit:</p><p></p><p><strong><em>"The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including yadda yadda yadda, shall not be questioned."</em></strong></p><p></p><p>The way this sentence is crafted, any law Congress passes regarding payment for any "obligation" Congress adopts, shall not be questioned. This sentence is not limited to paying debts, pensions and bounties incurred during the Civil War or in regard to any other act of rebellion or insurrection. For all intents and purposes, this disables anyone's right to challenge any otherwise unconstitutional spending Congress passes.</p><p></p><p>This sentence doesn't prohibit adopting debt that would not be otherwise constitutional. This sentence being a part of the Constitution is basically an open ended power to spend so long as it is passed by law. This makes Article I, Section 8, all but moot as far as to what Congress can spend money on.</p><p></p><p>Even if anyone wanted to challenge the trillions being spent willi-nilly by Congress, they wouldn't have a leg to stand on.</p><p></p><p>This part of the Fourteenth Amendment, along with the Sixteenth and Seventeenth Amendments, must be repealed. The damage these changes to the Constitution have caused is immeasurable. George Washington, in his farewell address, warned us about how such alterations to the Constitution could destroy the energy of the system.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-CDOC-106sdoc21/pdf/GPO-CDOC-106sdoc21.pdf" target="_blank">George Washington's Farewell Address</a></p><p></p><p>If you don't want to read the whole thing, the "warning" is on page 15 of the linked PDF, to wit:</p><p></p><p><em> Towards the preservation of your government and the permanency of your present happy state, it is requisite not only that you steadily discountenance irregular oppositions to its acknowledged authority but also that you resist with care the spirit of innovation upon its principles, however specious the pretexts.<strong> One method of assault may be to effect in the forms of the Constitution alterations which will impair the energy of the system and thus to undermine what cannot be directly overthrown.</strong> In all the changes to which you may be invited, remember that time and habit are at least as necessary to fix the true character of governments as of other human institutions, that experience is the surest standard by which to test the real tendency of the existing constitution of a country, that facility in changes upon the credit of mere hypotheses and opinion exposes to perpetual change from the endless variety of hypotheses and opinion; and remember, especially, that for the efficient management of your common interests in a country so extensive as ours, a government of as much vigor as is consistent with the perfect security of liberty is indispensable; liberty itself will find in such a govern- [15]</em></p><p></p><p>Elections have consequences.</p><p></p><p>Woody</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ConstitutionCowboy, post: 3850107, member: 745"] Look at the Fourteenth Amendment, Section 4, The first sentence, to wit: [B][I]"The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including yadda yadda yadda, shall not be questioned."[/I][/B] The way this sentence is crafted, any law Congress passes regarding payment for any "obligation" Congress adopts, shall not be questioned. This sentence is not limited to paying debts, pensions and bounties incurred during the Civil War or in regard to any other act of rebellion or insurrection. For all intents and purposes, this disables anyone's right to challenge any otherwise unconstitutional spending Congress passes. This sentence doesn't prohibit adopting debt that would not be otherwise constitutional. This sentence being a part of the Constitution is basically an open ended power to spend so long as it is passed by law. This makes Article I, Section 8, all but moot as far as to what Congress can spend money on. Even if anyone wanted to challenge the trillions being spent willi-nilly by Congress, they wouldn't have a leg to stand on. This part of the Fourteenth Amendment, along with the Sixteenth and Seventeenth Amendments, must be repealed. The damage these changes to the Constitution have caused is immeasurable. George Washington, in his farewell address, warned us about how such alterations to the Constitution could destroy the energy of the system. [URL='https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-CDOC-106sdoc21/pdf/GPO-CDOC-106sdoc21.pdf']George Washington's Farewell Address[/URL] If you don't want to read the whole thing, the "warning" is on page 15 of the linked PDF, to wit: [I] Towards the preservation of your government and the permanency of your present happy state, it is requisite not only that you steadily discountenance irregular oppositions to its acknowledged authority but also that you resist with care the spirit of innovation upon its principles, however specious the pretexts.[B] One method of assault may be to effect in the forms of the Constitution alterations which will impair the energy of the system and thus to undermine what cannot be directly overthrown.[/B] In all the changes to which you may be invited, remember that time and habit are at least as necessary to fix the true character of governments as of other human institutions, that experience is the surest standard by which to test the real tendency of the existing constitution of a country, that facility in changes upon the credit of mere hypotheses and opinion exposes to perpetual change from the endless variety of hypotheses and opinion; and remember, especially, that for the efficient management of your common interests in a country so extensive as ours, a government of as much vigor as is consistent with the perfect security of liberty is indispensable; liberty itself will find in such a govern- [15][/I] Elections have consequences. Woody [/QUOTE]
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