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<blockquote data-quote="mugsy" data-source="post: 2180730" data-attributes="member: 18914"><p>That is exactly the wrong position - what we did was wait out assisting the "more" moderate groups and ceded a huge amount of influence to Iranian backed groups. This "defense starts and ends at the border" nonsense might have been suited to the 18th century but it is failing before our eyes in the Middle East. BTW - before you start fighting a straw man - the alternative is NOT solely large scale intervention ala Afghanistan and Iraq.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mugsy, post: 2180730, member: 18914"] That is exactly the wrong position - what we did was wait out assisting the "more" moderate groups and ceded a huge amount of influence to Iranian backed groups. This "defense starts and ends at the border" nonsense might have been suited to the 18th century but it is failing before our eyes in the Middle East. BTW - before you start fighting a straw man - the alternative is NOT solely large scale intervention ala Afghanistan and Iraq. [/QUOTE]
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