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<blockquote data-quote="joegrizzy" data-source="post: 3549885" data-attributes="member: 45524"><p>oh i'm sure they are all great people, i never had any doubt. but my point is, back then i was only posting in the general discussion forum because i HAD to. and inevitably, as the 20 year old #*!&poster i was, i would post on topics that were hot at the time, such as Daniel Martin going around choking people, notable police involved shootings, etc. There were posts on this topic, and the chance to debate and flick @*#$ around with REAL cops was a cool challenge. so I took it.</p><p></p><p>for the most part, everything was cool, but inevitably it would always end up the same. Ya gotta remember, this was before all the BLM nonsense. but I will admit i was adamant about certain law discrepancies (like we've got legal weed now WHAAAAATTT, i got banned talking about weed at least once i'm sure lol) that at the time were supported by a more right leaning/libertarian kind of thing.</p><p></p><p>Like all things, through the normalization of ideas being dumbed down to the lowest common denominator, we now have a present where imo honest opinions on things like the 1033 program, inconsistent use of force continuums, no knock raids, all degraded to "all cops bad" and defund the police. it's funny, because i had a lot of left wing friends who thought i was some "crazy, right wing cop hater" when in reality my position was EXTREMELY light and i never at ANY point ever wished harm on any LEO. but now they are all every one posting trash on social media basically calling for the murder of cops. it's absurd. around those times, a lot of us were past the disillusion of more endless middle east wars (wow, that's wild to say.....10 isis years later!), we knew democrats were in charge, but it seemed like the mainstream GOP was just as bad. so people like me didn't sit in the middle, we sat outside the circle completely. i would say we've all been forced quite far right by the last decade. the wilder part of me honestly believes foreign involvement to co-opt a very real idea.</p><p></p><p>but, whether through intervention by unseen power, or just through the beast of human nature, i feel most "good ideas" get reduced to something awful relatively quickly when they reach the masses. the tea party, occupy, whatever the contemporary right is being called today (i guess insurrectionists?!), it always ends up being subverted into something that no longer represented the original ideas that spawn the movement.</p><p></p><p>so, as someone who has certainly mellowed out from those years, i can say i likely won't be engaging in any of that kind of #*!&posting here. but, if you start *requiring* it, don't be upset when you start noticing more contrarians hanging around. we've always been here, we've just been quiet.</p><p></p><p>hell, all conservatives have to be in the closet now. the kids call it keeping you power level hidden. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="joegrizzy, post: 3549885, member: 45524"] oh i'm sure they are all great people, i never had any doubt. but my point is, back then i was only posting in the general discussion forum because i HAD to. and inevitably, as the 20 year old #*!&poster i was, i would post on topics that were hot at the time, such as Daniel Martin going around choking people, notable police involved shootings, etc. There were posts on this topic, and the chance to debate and flick @*#$ around with REAL cops was a cool challenge. so I took it. for the most part, everything was cool, but inevitably it would always end up the same. Ya gotta remember, this was before all the BLM nonsense. but I will admit i was adamant about certain law discrepancies (like we've got legal weed now WHAAAAATTT, i got banned talking about weed at least once i'm sure lol) that at the time were supported by a more right leaning/libertarian kind of thing. Like all things, through the normalization of ideas being dumbed down to the lowest common denominator, we now have a present where imo honest opinions on things like the 1033 program, inconsistent use of force continuums, no knock raids, all degraded to "all cops bad" and defund the police. it's funny, because i had a lot of left wing friends who thought i was some "crazy, right wing cop hater" when in reality my position was EXTREMELY light and i never at ANY point ever wished harm on any LEO. but now they are all every one posting trash on social media basically calling for the murder of cops. it's absurd. around those times, a lot of us were past the disillusion of more endless middle east wars (wow, that's wild to say.....10 isis years later!), we knew democrats were in charge, but it seemed like the mainstream GOP was just as bad. so people like me didn't sit in the middle, we sat outside the circle completely. i would say we've all been forced quite far right by the last decade. the wilder part of me honestly believes foreign involvement to co-opt a very real idea. but, whether through intervention by unseen power, or just through the beast of human nature, i feel most "good ideas" get reduced to something awful relatively quickly when they reach the masses. the tea party, occupy, whatever the contemporary right is being called today (i guess insurrectionists?!), it always ends up being subverted into something that no longer represented the original ideas that spawn the movement. so, as someone who has certainly mellowed out from those years, i can say i likely won't be engaging in any of that kind of #*!&posting here. but, if you start *requiring* it, don't be upset when you start noticing more contrarians hanging around. we've always been here, we've just been quiet. hell, all conservatives have to be in the closet now. the kids call it keeping you power level hidden. :) [/QUOTE]
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