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<blockquote data-quote="tulsamal" data-source="post: 2699626" data-attributes="member: 571"><p>The tax law is a little more complex than that. A US corporation that sells product in the US pays taxes here in the US. They can always do things to lower that tax bill. Things any business owner would do like charitable contributions, making investments in land or tooling for future use. And to create future jobs. Where the confusion seems to occur is when something happens like Apple. Apple sells phones and Macs and iPods and iPads, etc, all around the world. The new iPhones are selling very, very well in China. But then what? You sell a bunch in Japan, you have massive amounts of yen. You can convert that to dollars and send it home to Apple but then the US government wants a big chunk in taxes. Which has never made sense to me. A company like Apple is a true multi-national corporation. If they manufacture an iPhone overseas, then sell it overseas, employ people overseas, get paid in a foreign currency.... why does the US government think they should pay taxes on that?? Why would they? If you were the CEO and responsible to the shareholders... why would you allow that to happen?</p><p></p><p>So the result is predictable. Overseas US corporations just don't send all that foreign money back to the US. They keep it in banks in the countries where the product was sold. And use it to pay their expenses over there. To pay for the factories and employees. To make more investments over there. So the US doesn't get the economic boost which could have happened had they allowed that money to flow back here. And here is the even worse thing... what if a government decides to get super aggressive and pursue this sort of thing with Apple or Exxon, whomever? The obvious answer if you are the CEO is why do we actually need to be a "US company" in the first place? It's like the nationality flags they fly on ships. Doesn't mean much other than where they pay taxes. So if you try to enact repressive taxes on an international corporation (or super wealthy individuals) don't be surprised if they just pack their bags and go somewhere else. Is that really what we want to happen? Drive the corporations out of the US. Drive the wealthy out as well so we end up getting zero taxes from them? Just seems very self-defeating to me. Anybody who is worth a billion or so will have no problem living wherever they prefer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tulsamal, post: 2699626, member: 571"] The tax law is a little more complex than that. A US corporation that sells product in the US pays taxes here in the US. They can always do things to lower that tax bill. Things any business owner would do like charitable contributions, making investments in land or tooling for future use. And to create future jobs. Where the confusion seems to occur is when something happens like Apple. Apple sells phones and Macs and iPods and iPads, etc, all around the world. The new iPhones are selling very, very well in China. But then what? You sell a bunch in Japan, you have massive amounts of yen. You can convert that to dollars and send it home to Apple but then the US government wants a big chunk in taxes. Which has never made sense to me. A company like Apple is a true multi-national corporation. If they manufacture an iPhone overseas, then sell it overseas, employ people overseas, get paid in a foreign currency.... why does the US government think they should pay taxes on that?? Why would they? If you were the CEO and responsible to the shareholders... why would you allow that to happen? So the result is predictable. Overseas US corporations just don't send all that foreign money back to the US. They keep it in banks in the countries where the product was sold. And use it to pay their expenses over there. To pay for the factories and employees. To make more investments over there. So the US doesn't get the economic boost which could have happened had they allowed that money to flow back here. And here is the even worse thing... what if a government decides to get super aggressive and pursue this sort of thing with Apple or Exxon, whomever? The obvious answer if you are the CEO is why do we actually need to be a "US company" in the first place? It's like the nationality flags they fly on ships. Doesn't mean much other than where they pay taxes. So if you try to enact repressive taxes on an international corporation (or super wealthy individuals) don't be surprised if they just pack their bags and go somewhere else. Is that really what we want to happen? Drive the corporations out of the US. Drive the wealthy out as well so we end up getting zero taxes from them? Just seems very self-defeating to me. Anybody who is worth a billion or so will have no problem living wherever they prefer. [/QUOTE]
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