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<blockquote data-quote="Ethan N" data-source="post: 3234969" data-attributes="member: 29267"><p>Yes. The point is the ignorant populace got confused by “AR,” so informed people introduced a term for the category that more accurately reflects their suitability and common uses. And their suitability is what’s at issue in considering a ban on importation (according to the law). I was agreeing with you that most people are willfully ignorant of what “AR” means and what they are used for and we have a lot of work to do to turn that around. But a ban based on suitability is not valid just because most people don’t know what the gun is suitable for.</p><p></p><p>I said I wanted to “pretend” people are rational. I was poking fun at myself. <img src="/images/smilies/wink2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink2 :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /> On the other hand, one of the best ways to help people learn to be rational is to let them see that you expect them to be rational. There are tons of people who are pretty much beyond being helped, but most people respond well to positive expectations.</p><p></p><p>Yeah. Again, I was agreeing with you. We have to fix that. I was just pointing out that it’s not as simple as saying we used to call them ARs, but now we want to change that to MSR because that sounds better. These guns have practically always been sold as sporting firearms and been suitable for sporting purposes, even before they were commonly used in warfare (albeit only by a few months). Besides that, “MSR” refers to a whole category of guns and AR-15s are one of several platforms in that category, so we need to rehabilitate the term “AR” as well, because it will continue to be used to refer to that platform.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ethan N, post: 3234969, member: 29267"] Yes. The point is the ignorant populace got confused by “AR,” so informed people introduced a term for the category that more accurately reflects their suitability and common uses. And their suitability is what’s at issue in considering a ban on importation (according to the law). I was agreeing with you that most people are willfully ignorant of what “AR” means and what they are used for and we have a lot of work to do to turn that around. But a ban based on suitability is not valid just because most people don’t know what the gun is suitable for. I said I wanted to “pretend” people are rational. I was poking fun at myself. :wink2: On the other hand, one of the best ways to help people learn to be rational is to let them see that you expect them to be rational. There are tons of people who are pretty much beyond being helped, but most people respond well to positive expectations. Yeah. Again, I was agreeing with you. We have to fix that. I was just pointing out that it’s not as simple as saying we used to call them ARs, but now we want to change that to MSR because that sounds better. These guns have practically always been sold as sporting firearms and been suitable for sporting purposes, even before they were commonly used in warfare (albeit only by a few months). Besides that, “MSR” refers to a whole category of guns and AR-15s are one of several platforms in that category, so we need to rehabilitate the term “AR” as well, because it will continue to be used to refer to that platform. [/QUOTE]
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