Like I've been saying you've done so much backpedaling and goalpost moving that it's becoming laughable. A number of things can happen in 6 years to ANY QB so it's a stupid bet. How about we go with your original statements. "Kyler isn't well suited for the NFL" <--------- Well he's likely getting drafted, possibly in the FIRST round. Wanna bet he gets drafted? "Well he’s not going to be a QB in the NFL" <------------- Wanna bet he starts as a QB at some point? Now you've gone too.... "well let's see what happens in 6 years" With Baker, "The Jury is still out on Baker" Well actually, most consider what he's done to be extraordinary because he's won more games than the 42 other QBs that have started for the Browns. More wins obviously now than the last three seasons combined. He did it in a dumpster fire of an organization and broke a passing TD record. "it's early to start building shrines". Nobody said that.... although I'll bet some in Cleveland would like to. I think most understand that it's not midway through the season and that he's had some significant success. When many said he wouldn't.