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<blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 3311027" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>I have a place with 3 pipelines running across it, a pipeline running through my backyard, and is President of a gun club with several pipelines and drilling easements on it. </p><p>Checking with an attorney is the first option if a pipeline is looking at crossing the property they will try to lowball you with surface damages and prices for the easement.</p><p> They will show you prices that the neighbors got and expect you to go along with when in reality, the attorney we used advised us of a price and we tripled the damages, with the company just writing a check. We also got environmental issues about spills, traffic, road easements and road usage addressed in the contract that had never been mentioned in their original proposal at our gun range. </p><p>Pipelines are not removable. They keep an electrical charge on them to prevent corrosion. When they are abandoned, they reverse the charge and the pipeline dissolves into rust and returns to the earth. That is what happened to the pipeline in our backyard.</p><p></p><p>In the place I have 3 pipelines crossing, it's kind of confusing what they want initially. The easements are 60' wide per pipeline. One company requires me to mow, plant, or burn the easement every 5 years to keep the brush out so the flyboys that run the pipeline every day could see leaks. They did a clean and strip of all tree stumps and brush on the easement. </p><p>Second pipeline, just cut the trees down, didn't treat the stumps so brush is growing back from the stumps.</p><p>Third pipeline they pulled the stumps, and they come annually to spray to kill the brush that comes up from the roots. </p><p>Every company is different it seems on their requirements. Of the three pipelines crossing the River place, it makes one heck of a hunting opportunity with the second pipeline letting it go back to original. I plant the first one, and the third one comes and manages their easement so there is good growth of forbs and things that deer love to eat. </p><p>So, for the OP, get a copy of the easement requirements from the county clerk and see what it required to maintain it, and see what limitations you can put on access to the property from those that own the easement. </p><p>At our gun club, we put a stipulation in that they had to open the lock at the gate when coming in, lock it on ingress, do their thing while on the property, and then lock the gate when leaving. </p><p>We found they were leaving the lock open for hours and the gate open when they were in there via security cams and forced them to comply. It's a long story, but down the road, they failed to comply again and now they go around the range on another road they had to pay the neighbor for access. </p><p>An attorney is your best friend in this situation. One that is versed in land management and acquisitions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dennishoddy, post: 3311027, member: 5412"] I have a place with 3 pipelines running across it, a pipeline running through my backyard, and is President of a gun club with several pipelines and drilling easements on it. Checking with an attorney is the first option if a pipeline is looking at crossing the property they will try to lowball you with surface damages and prices for the easement. They will show you prices that the neighbors got and expect you to go along with when in reality, the attorney we used advised us of a price and we tripled the damages, with the company just writing a check. We also got environmental issues about spills, traffic, road easements and road usage addressed in the contract that had never been mentioned in their original proposal at our gun range. Pipelines are not removable. They keep an electrical charge on them to prevent corrosion. When they are abandoned, they reverse the charge and the pipeline dissolves into rust and returns to the earth. That is what happened to the pipeline in our backyard. In the place I have 3 pipelines crossing, it's kind of confusing what they want initially. The easements are 60' wide per pipeline. One company requires me to mow, plant, or burn the easement every 5 years to keep the brush out so the flyboys that run the pipeline every day could see leaks. They did a clean and strip of all tree stumps and brush on the easement. Second pipeline, just cut the trees down, didn't treat the stumps so brush is growing back from the stumps. Third pipeline they pulled the stumps, and they come annually to spray to kill the brush that comes up from the roots. Every company is different it seems on their requirements. Of the three pipelines crossing the River place, it makes one heck of a hunting opportunity with the second pipeline letting it go back to original. I plant the first one, and the third one comes and manages their easement so there is good growth of forbs and things that deer love to eat. So, for the OP, get a copy of the easement requirements from the county clerk and see what it required to maintain it, and see what limitations you can put on access to the property from those that own the easement. At our gun club, we put a stipulation in that they had to open the lock at the gate when coming in, lock it on ingress, do their thing while on the property, and then lock the gate when leaving. We found they were leaving the lock open for hours and the gate open when they were in there via security cams and forced them to comply. It's a long story, but down the road, they failed to comply again and now they go around the range on another road they had to pay the neighbor for access. An attorney is your best friend in this situation. One that is versed in land management and acquisitions. [/QUOTE]
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