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LEO asked me to remove my gun and leave it in car during traffic stop
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<blockquote data-quote="BryanDP" data-source="post: 1133509" data-attributes="member: 1111"><p>I just about had a major misunderstanding with an OHP officer several years ago on a rural Osage County road at just before midnight. </p><p></p><p>According to him, he and I passed each other going opposite directions and he radared me at like 55 in a 45. Also according to him, he turned around and had to "chase me down." I recall passing a car but didn't know it was OHP unit and I never saw him turn around or follow me. I don't really know how fast I was going. </p><p></p><p>By the time he caught up with me I was out of my car at my gate starting to unlock it. He pulled in right behind me, which freaked me out. All I saw were the headlights of his car. No red and blue lights or nothing. He swung wide open the door to his car, jumped out and headed toward me as he said, "get back in your car." About this time he walked in front of one of his blinding headlights and I could see enough of his outline and the yellow "pancake" lights (or the LED equivalent) flashing in his rear window so I complied. He asked for my license and registration, but I first gave him my license and carry permit as I said, I am carrying tonight. He asked where and I told him. He asked me to step out of the car and I did so. He removed the gun from my holster and said, "I'm going to hang on to this for now. Please get your insurance info and come to my car." I said something stupid like, "Be careful, that thing is loaded and ready to go." Sorry, it just goes against my nature to hand someone a full loaded gun like that and not say something like that.</p><p></p><p>I came to his car with my insurance. As I sat down in the front passenger seat I noticed my gun tucked between his legs in his crotch. He said, "Didn't you see me back there?" I said, "No...obviously if I had I wouldn't have been speeding" and he kind of laughed. I told him, "You do know only your back lights are on, right? You freaked me out when you pulled in behind me. I didn't know you were an officer at first." He reached down and fiddled with some switches at which time the overheads lit up the dark country road and he said, "Oh."</p><p></p><p>He continued to scribble on a ticket pad. He handed it over for me to sign and said, "I'm just writing you a warning tonight. Thanks for telling me about your gun." I reminded him that I was required to notify by law. He told me that a lot of people did not inform properly and then get their nose out of joint when "they" (OHP officers I assume) discover it on their own and throw them on ground and stick a gun in their ear. </p><p></p><p>After the warning ticket business was done, he picked up my gun (which was still fully loaded) admired it a bit and said, "Nice gun." I thanked him and he handed it back to me (still fully loaded) as I sat next to him in his car. I figured as a minimum he'd have wanted to unload it or put it in my trunk or maybe holster it for me, but nope. He just handed it to me right there in the front seat of his car. </p><p></p><p>After the "misunderstanding" was cleared up he was really cool. It was just him and me on the side of a rural road in a county known for some real troublemakers so I didn't particularly mind being disarmed but I was freaked out that he handed me the loaded gun back right there in his car.</p><p></p><p>Bryan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryanDP, post: 1133509, member: 1111"] I just about had a major misunderstanding with an OHP officer several years ago on a rural Osage County road at just before midnight. According to him, he and I passed each other going opposite directions and he radared me at like 55 in a 45. Also according to him, he turned around and had to "chase me down." I recall passing a car but didn't know it was OHP unit and I never saw him turn around or follow me. I don't really know how fast I was going. By the time he caught up with me I was out of my car at my gate starting to unlock it. He pulled in right behind me, which freaked me out. All I saw were the headlights of his car. No red and blue lights or nothing. He swung wide open the door to his car, jumped out and headed toward me as he said, "get back in your car." About this time he walked in front of one of his blinding headlights and I could see enough of his outline and the yellow "pancake" lights (or the LED equivalent) flashing in his rear window so I complied. He asked for my license and registration, but I first gave him my license and carry permit as I said, I am carrying tonight. He asked where and I told him. He asked me to step out of the car and I did so. He removed the gun from my holster and said, "I'm going to hang on to this for now. Please get your insurance info and come to my car." I said something stupid like, "Be careful, that thing is loaded and ready to go." Sorry, it just goes against my nature to hand someone a full loaded gun like that and not say something like that. I came to his car with my insurance. As I sat down in the front passenger seat I noticed my gun tucked between his legs in his crotch. He said, "Didn't you see me back there?" I said, "No...obviously if I had I wouldn't have been speeding" and he kind of laughed. I told him, "You do know only your back lights are on, right? You freaked me out when you pulled in behind me. I didn't know you were an officer at first." He reached down and fiddled with some switches at which time the overheads lit up the dark country road and he said, "Oh." He continued to scribble on a ticket pad. He handed it over for me to sign and said, "I'm just writing you a warning tonight. Thanks for telling me about your gun." I reminded him that I was required to notify by law. He told me that a lot of people did not inform properly and then get their nose out of joint when "they" (OHP officers I assume) discover it on their own and throw them on ground and stick a gun in their ear. After the warning ticket business was done, he picked up my gun (which was still fully loaded) admired it a bit and said, "Nice gun." I thanked him and he handed it back to me (still fully loaded) as I sat next to him in his car. I figured as a minimum he'd have wanted to unload it or put it in my trunk or maybe holster it for me, but nope. He just handed it to me right there in the front seat of his car. After the "misunderstanding" was cleared up he was really cool. It was just him and me on the side of a rural road in a county known for some real troublemakers so I didn't particularly mind being disarmed but I was freaked out that he handed me the loaded gun back right there in his car. Bryan [/QUOTE]
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