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LEO asked me to remove my gun and leave it in car during traffic stop
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<blockquote data-quote="ExSniper" data-source="post: 1165198" data-attributes="member: 1387"><p>TITLE 21 § 1290.8. Possession of license required-notification to police of gun</p><p>POSSESSION OF LICENSE REQUIRED-NOTIFICATION TO POLICE OF GUN</p><p></p><p>A. <strong>It shall be unlawful for any person to fail or refuse to identify the fact that the person is in actual possession of a concealed handgun pursuant to the authority of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act when the person first comes into contact with any law enforcement officer</strong> of this state or its political subdivisions or a federal law enforcement officer <strong>during the course of any arrest, detainment, or routine traffic stop.</strong> No person shall be required to identify himself or herself as a concealed handgun licensee when no handgun is in the person’s possession or in any vehicle <strong>in which the person is driving or is a passenger.</strong> Any violation of the provisions of this subsection shall, upon conviction, be a misdemeanor punishable by a fine not exceeding Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00), by imprisonment in the county jail for a period not to exceed ninety (90) days, or by both such fine and imprisonment. In addition to any criminal prosecution for a violation of the provisions of this subsection, the licensee shall be subject to a six-month suspension of the license and an administrative fine of Fifty Dollars ($50.00), upon a hearing and determination by the Bureau that the person is in violation of the provisions of this subsection.</p><p></p><p>This is from the SDA. I know there may be some widely divergent interpretations of what this means exactly, Pages 15 and 16 of the SDA Instructor Lesson Plan, which your instructor is required to teach you, states:</p><p>"(1) Contact means: (a) Conversation. <strong>(b) A stop of a motor vehicle, whether the citizen is driving or a passenger;</strong> or (c) Any arrest, for any reason.</p><p></p><p>Clearly the interpretation promulgated by CLEET and required to be taught to all prospective SDA students is the passenger has to tell on first contact during a traffic stop.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ExSniper, post: 1165198, member: 1387"] TITLE 21 § 1290.8. Possession of license required-notification to police of gun POSSESSION OF LICENSE REQUIRED-NOTIFICATION TO POLICE OF GUN A. [B]It shall be unlawful for any person to fail or refuse to identify the fact that the person is in actual possession of a concealed handgun pursuant to the authority of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act when the person first comes into contact with any law enforcement officer[/B] of this state or its political subdivisions or a federal law enforcement officer [B]during the course of any arrest, detainment, or routine traffic stop.[/B] No person shall be required to identify himself or herself as a concealed handgun licensee when no handgun is in the person’s possession or in any vehicle [B]in which the person is driving or is a passenger.[/B] Any violation of the provisions of this subsection shall, upon conviction, be a misdemeanor punishable by a fine not exceeding Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00), by imprisonment in the county jail for a period not to exceed ninety (90) days, or by both such fine and imprisonment. In addition to any criminal prosecution for a violation of the provisions of this subsection, the licensee shall be subject to a six-month suspension of the license and an administrative fine of Fifty Dollars ($50.00), upon a hearing and determination by the Bureau that the person is in violation of the provisions of this subsection. This is from the SDA. I know there may be some widely divergent interpretations of what this means exactly, Pages 15 and 16 of the SDA Instructor Lesson Plan, which your instructor is required to teach you, states: "(1) Contact means: (a) Conversation. [B](b) A stop of a motor vehicle, whether the citizen is driving or a passenger;[/B] or (c) Any arrest, for any reason. Clearly the interpretation promulgated by CLEET and required to be taught to all prospective SDA students is the passenger has to tell on first contact during a traffic stop. [/QUOTE]
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