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<blockquote data-quote="Glocktogo" data-source="post: 3560891" data-attributes="member: 1132"><p>Late to the party but on topic, IIRC there was a guy who successfully stopped a close range grizzly attack with a 9mm pistol stoked with Buffalo Bore ammo. I saw some video and the bear came out of the long grass right on top of the fisherman like a lion in Africa. I was shocked at how quickly he got the gun up and on target, and the bear was killed IIRC?</p><p></p><p>Anyway, even the Park Service and USF&WS have to occasionally put down bears that have become predatory towards humans. Sure they prefer to trap them and relocate away from human activity if possible, but it doesn't always work out that way. It would suck to be the guy making first direct contact with such a bear and not have an effective means of defense. Keep in mind repellants such as bear spray are a LOT less likely to stop a big one in a full charge. I'd consider that more effective on a bear that's chuffing and doing false charges, or just a bit too curious. </p><p></p><p>One thing is for sure, those federal agencies take "self-defense" shootings on bear VERY seriously. They will investigate those just like a detective would investigate a human homicide. So I think the best approach is the same one you'd use with a human. Only shoot when in reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm and IF possible, deescalate instead. Sometimes that just isn't feasible though, so I'd never go unstrapped in bear country, just in case.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glocktogo, post: 3560891, member: 1132"] Late to the party but on topic, IIRC there was a guy who successfully stopped a close range grizzly attack with a 9mm pistol stoked with Buffalo Bore ammo. I saw some video and the bear came out of the long grass right on top of the fisherman like a lion in Africa. I was shocked at how quickly he got the gun up and on target, and the bear was killed IIRC? Anyway, even the Park Service and USF&WS have to occasionally put down bears that have become predatory towards humans. Sure they prefer to trap them and relocate away from human activity if possible, but it doesn't always work out that way. It would suck to be the guy making first direct contact with such a bear and not have an effective means of defense. Keep in mind repellants such as bear spray are a LOT less likely to stop a big one in a full charge. I'd consider that more effective on a bear that's chuffing and doing false charges, or just a bit too curious. One thing is for sure, those federal agencies take "self-defense" shootings on bear VERY seriously. They will investigate those just like a detective would investigate a human homicide. So I think the best approach is the same one you'd use with a human. Only shoot when in reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm and IF possible, deescalate instead. Sometimes that just isn't feasible though, so I'd never go unstrapped in bear country, just in case. [/QUOTE]
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