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<blockquote data-quote="Dale00" data-source="post: 3279483" data-attributes="member: 688"><p>The facts are unclear at this point....unless someone has direct knowledge. I doubt anyone here does.</p><p></p><p>But there are alternative scenarios running contrary to the "woe is us" news coverage and knee-jerk reactions based on partial and unverified information.</p><p></p><p>Consider these <em>possibilities</em>:</p><p>Turkey told us they were attacking in x days, whether we were there or not....and in addition the size and strength of U.S. forces there was minor.</p><p></p><p>Not all Kurds are good guys....there are many different factions some of whom were bad actors. </p><p></p><p>The Turks may be walking into an unwinnable war.......including the real prospect of tangling with Russian forces</p><p></p><p>Getting out had to happen sometime and now is no worse than later.....what exactly are we doing there that is essential to our interests?....the most likely response is "protecting our good allies, the Kurds".......Suppose that is entirely and completely true...how long do they need protecting? when is the projected exit point?...Again: What exactly are we doing there that is essential our interests....are we to be perpetual peacekeepers everywhere?</p><p></p><p>You can throw rocks at any or all of these possibilities but don't you find it striking that the story in the media is so clear-cut ...almost as if they are simply repeating each other instead of having actual people on the ground to report on what is happening.....which is without a doubt <em>the chaos of war</em> rather than the simple narrative we hear being repeated over and over.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dale00, post: 3279483, member: 688"] The facts are unclear at this point....unless someone has direct knowledge. I doubt anyone here does. But there are alternative scenarios running contrary to the "woe is us" news coverage and knee-jerk reactions based on partial and unverified information. Consider these [I]possibilities[/I]: Turkey told us they were attacking in x days, whether we were there or not....and in addition the size and strength of U.S. forces there was minor. Not all Kurds are good guys....there are many different factions some of whom were bad actors. The Turks may be walking into an unwinnable war.......including the real prospect of tangling with Russian forces Getting out had to happen sometime and now is no worse than later.....what exactly are we doing there that is essential to our interests?....the most likely response is "protecting our good allies, the Kurds".......Suppose that is entirely and completely true...how long do they need protecting? when is the projected exit point?...Again: What exactly are we doing there that is essential our interests....are we to be perpetual peacekeepers everywhere? You can throw rocks at any or all of these possibilities but don't you find it striking that the story in the media is so clear-cut ...almost as if they are simply repeating each other instead of having actual people on the ground to report on what is happening.....which is without a doubt [I]the chaos of war[/I] rather than the simple narrative we hear being repeated over and over. [/QUOTE]
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