Tell you what, put yourself in one of those situations and refuse ID. Just please video tape it so we can all be enlightened.
No need. Go to YouTube. There are dozens if not hundreds of videos out there showing how cops violate peoples rights. As soon as the cop realizes the person knows their rights they back off (sometimes). Believe me, I video tape every interaction with police. Traffic stops can be the worst. Bully cops hate the video. Remember, cops can lie to you, however, you cannot lie to them (never have figured that one out). Are you suggesting that a cop would cause harm over a no ID situation?