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<blockquote data-quote="ratski" data-source="post: 1489360" data-attributes="member: 936"><p>M11 is a good starter package. I'll chime in and say that IF you can swing the extra, you might consider going the Uzi route. Prices have dropped in the last few years and I've seen some in the 5500 range. I have both the M11 and the Uzi. My "go to" full auto is the Uzi. Personal preference only, but a good all around package.</p><p></p><p>The advantages I see of the Uzi over the M11 are the availability of parts and caliber conversion kits. Conversion kits for the Uzi include .22, 5mm (training) and 45cal. Right now, Uzi mags are dirt cheap and they last forever. M11 factory mags are Zytel and can break. And they are pricier than Uzi mags.</p><p></p><p>The M11 was my first FA. I have mine converted to Sten mags. Although, Sten mags are getting harder to find and going up in price, much like Grease Gun mags.</p><p></p><p>There are alot of accessories for the M11 and the Lage accessories are top shelf. Richard Lage is a good guy who stands behind his work also. </p><p></p><p>If you watch some of the boards, you might be able to get the M11 under 3K. The economy makes it a buyers market. Don't pop a woodie over the first gun you see. And you might consider a counter offer to someone's asking price. Finding one in Oklahoma has the advantage of fewer transfers and less cost, so you might want to make a few WTB posts and see what turns up.</p><p></p><p>One final word of warning. And this one is VERY IMPORTANT. Full-Auto-itis is an addictive disease. Once you start, there is no stopping. There is no turning back. You will find yourself looking at case price points for ammo instead of box prices. You will measure your range time not in hours, but in rounds fired. You will scan the boards looking for good deals on extra magazines, realizing that it is easier to load mags at the house than at the range. You will find yourself wishing, wanting and dreaming of other FA goodies. You will fondly stroke your FA and lust after your friend's FAs. It is a sickness for which there is no known cure.</p><p></p><p>Dave</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ratski, post: 1489360, member: 936"] M11 is a good starter package. I'll chime in and say that IF you can swing the extra, you might consider going the Uzi route. Prices have dropped in the last few years and I've seen some in the 5500 range. I have both the M11 and the Uzi. My "go to" full auto is the Uzi. Personal preference only, but a good all around package. The advantages I see of the Uzi over the M11 are the availability of parts and caliber conversion kits. Conversion kits for the Uzi include .22, 5mm (training) and 45cal. Right now, Uzi mags are dirt cheap and they last forever. M11 factory mags are Zytel and can break. And they are pricier than Uzi mags. The M11 was my first FA. I have mine converted to Sten mags. Although, Sten mags are getting harder to find and going up in price, much like Grease Gun mags. There are alot of accessories for the M11 and the Lage accessories are top shelf. Richard Lage is a good guy who stands behind his work also. If you watch some of the boards, you might be able to get the M11 under 3K. The economy makes it a buyers market. Don't pop a woodie over the first gun you see. And you might consider a counter offer to someone's asking price. Finding one in Oklahoma has the advantage of fewer transfers and less cost, so you might want to make a few WTB posts and see what turns up. One final word of warning. And this one is VERY IMPORTANT. Full-Auto-itis is an addictive disease. Once you start, there is no stopping. There is no turning back. You will find yourself looking at case price points for ammo instead of box prices. You will measure your range time not in hours, but in rounds fired. You will scan the boards looking for good deals on extra magazines, realizing that it is easier to load mags at the house than at the range. You will find yourself wishing, wanting and dreaming of other FA goodies. You will fondly stroke your FA and lust after your friend's FAs. It is a sickness for which there is no known cure. Dave [/QUOTE]
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