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<blockquote data-quote="joegrizzy" data-source="post: 3841452" data-attributes="member: 45524"><p>once you realize wars are get rich quick schemes and people REALLY ARE just pawns, it makes more sense.</p><p></p><p>the people funding never lose. ever.</p><p></p><p>for instance: before the mass immigration to new england via europe in the 1930-40's, the overwhelming majority of jewish power, both financially and politically, was in Florida.</p><p> </p><p>in case you didn't know, Florida was part of the South and indeed supported slavery. wanna read moses levy's wikipedia? remember, when they use the word "merchant" it doesn't JUST mean slave *owner*, it means slave trafficker and seller. </p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_Elias_Levy[/URL]</p><p></p><p>><strong>Moses Elias Levy</strong> (1782 in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essaouira" target="_blank">Mogador</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco" target="_blank">Morocco</a> – September 7, 1854 in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Sulphur_Springs,_West_Virginia" target="_blank">White Sulphur Springs</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia" target="_blank">Virginia</a>) (In Arabic :<strong>موسى إلياس ليفي</strong>) was a Moroccan-American businessman and ardent social and religious reformer. Born into an elite <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sephardic_Jewish" target="_blank">Sephardic Jewish</a> family in Morocco, Levy migrated to Gibraltar as a child and later established himself as a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_merchant" target="_blank">slave merchant</a> in the Caribbean with extensive business dealings in England, Europe, and the Americas. After amassing a fortune, Levy ended his business career in favor of a life centered on philanthropic causes.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_Elias_Levy#cite_note-Monaco-1" target="_blank">[1]</a> In 1821 he immigrated to the Florida Territory in the United States where he established a large agrarian refuge for Jews who were suffering under repression in Europe. Although the number of Jews fell far short of expectations, at least five Jewish families made their way to Levy's Pilgrimage Plantation—located in north central Florida—making this the first agrarian Jewish settlement in the United States (1822–1835).<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_Elias_Levy#cite_note-Monaco-1" target="_blank">[1]</a></p><p> </p><p>basically, he came to america, used his boats to single handedly establish slave routes on Curacao and other islands, had two sons serve in the CSA government, went to London to advocate for ending slavery there (of course, he owned <em>BOATS!</em>, and that's the one thing you HAD TO HAVE to get slaves from africa to the new world), opened the first jewish settlement in america, and "amassed a fortune" selling africans to them. </p><p></p><p>his name ever come up in those talks about evil slave owners? no? hmmmm</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="joegrizzy, post: 3841452, member: 45524"] once you realize wars are get rich quick schemes and people REALLY ARE just pawns, it makes more sense. the people funding never lose. ever. for instance: before the mass immigration to new england via europe in the 1930-40's, the overwhelming majority of jewish power, both financially and politically, was in Florida. in case you didn't know, Florida was part of the South and indeed supported slavery. wanna read moses levy's wikipedia? remember, when they use the word "merchant" it doesn't JUST mean slave *owner*, it means slave trafficker and seller. [URL unfurl="true"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_Elias_Levy[/URL] >[B]Moses Elias Levy[/B] (1782 in [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essaouira']Mogador[/URL], [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco']Morocco[/URL] – September 7, 1854 in [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Sulphur_Springs,_West_Virginia']White Sulphur Springs[/URL], [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia']Virginia[/URL]) (In Arabic :[B]موسى إلياس ليفي[/B]) was a Moroccan-American businessman and ardent social and religious reformer. Born into an elite [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sephardic_Jewish']Sephardic Jewish[/URL] family in Morocco, Levy migrated to Gibraltar as a child and later established himself as a [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_merchant']slave merchant[/URL] in the Caribbean with extensive business dealings in England, Europe, and the Americas. After amassing a fortune, Levy ended his business career in favor of a life centered on philanthropic causes.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_Elias_Levy#cite_note-Monaco-1'][1][/URL] In 1821 he immigrated to the Florida Territory in the United States where he established a large agrarian refuge for Jews who were suffering under repression in Europe. Although the number of Jews fell far short of expectations, at least five Jewish families made their way to Levy's Pilgrimage Plantation—located in north central Florida—making this the first agrarian Jewish settlement in the United States (1822–1835).[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_Elias_Levy#cite_note-Monaco-1'][1][/URL] basically, he came to america, used his boats to single handedly establish slave routes on Curacao and other islands, had two sons serve in the CSA government, went to London to advocate for ending slavery there (of course, he owned [I]BOATS![/I], and that's the one thing you HAD TO HAVE to get slaves from africa to the new world), opened the first jewish settlement in america, and "amassed a fortune" selling africans to them. his name ever come up in those talks about evil slave owners? no? hmmmm [/QUOTE]
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