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<blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 3007493" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>"In his books, articles, radio and television appearances, Dr. Ball has been resolute in his generation-long war against those who corrupted the field of science to which he had selflessly dedicated his life. Now aged 79, Ball is on the cusp of utter vindication. Despite the stresses and strains on himself and his family, Tim has stood at the forefront of those scientists demanding more openness and transparency from <strong>government-funded researchers</strong>."</p><p></p><p>This is exactly what the climate change/warming skeptics have been saying for years. Government funded science is nothing more than a political narrative.</p><p>In the case of obama, the solar industry and other "climate friendly" entities were huge donors to his election. His payback was to send them billions of tax payer dollars which they walked off with in bankruptcy.</p><p></p><p></p><p>"Dr Ball and his PSI colleagues are among those now calling for governments to set aside proper funding for ‘blue team’ scientists and experts skilled in critically examining claims made by so-called government ‘experts’ where they impact public policy. In the final outcome, these ‘devil’s advocates’ of science (or ‘skeptics’) are the best defense against waste and corruption."</p><p></p><p>"A bitter and embarrassing defeat for the self-styled ‘Nobel Prize winner’ who acted as if he was the epitome of virtue, this outcome shames not only Michael Mann, but puts the climate science community in crisis. <strong>Many hundreds of peer-reviewed papers cite Mann’s work, which is now effectively junked.</strong> Despite having deep-pocketed backers willing and able to feed his ego as a publicity-seeking mouthpiece against skeptics, Mann’s credibility as a champion of environmentalism is in tatters.</p><p></p><p>Which is why I've always called myself a skeptic in this Bull crap. We have to stop the science for politics.</p><p>The bolded part puts into question some on here have espoused to be quantitative proof because they have been <strong>peer reviewed. </strong></p><p>Obviously that validation is worthless in the world of science as we know it now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dennishoddy, post: 3007493, member: 5412"] "In his books, articles, radio and television appearances, Dr. Ball has been resolute in his generation-long war against those who corrupted the field of science to which he had selflessly dedicated his life. Now aged 79, Ball is on the cusp of utter vindication. Despite the stresses and strains on himself and his family, Tim has stood at the forefront of those scientists demanding more openness and transparency from [B]government-funded researchers[/B]." This is exactly what the climate change/warming skeptics have been saying for years. Government funded science is nothing more than a political narrative. In the case of obama, the solar industry and other "climate friendly" entities were huge donors to his election. His payback was to send them billions of tax payer dollars which they walked off with in bankruptcy. "Dr Ball and his PSI colleagues are among those now calling for governments to set aside proper funding for ‘blue team’ scientists and experts skilled in critically examining claims made by so-called government ‘experts’ where they impact public policy. In the final outcome, these ‘devil’s advocates’ of science (or ‘skeptics’) are the best defense against waste and corruption." "A bitter and embarrassing defeat for the self-styled ‘Nobel Prize winner’ who acted as if he was the epitome of virtue, this outcome shames not only Michael Mann, but puts the climate science community in crisis. [B]Many hundreds of peer-reviewed papers cite Mann’s work, which is now effectively junked.[/B] Despite having deep-pocketed backers willing and able to feed his ego as a publicity-seeking mouthpiece against skeptics, Mann’s credibility as a champion of environmentalism is in tatters. Which is why I've always called myself a skeptic in this Bull crap. We have to stop the science for politics. The bolded part puts into question some on here have espoused to be quantitative proof because they have been [B]peer reviewed. [/B] Obviously that validation is worthless in the world of science as we know it now. [/QUOTE]
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