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Man shot and killed by trooper after fleeing driver's license checkpoint in Miami, OK
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<blockquote data-quote="henschman" data-source="post: 2740085" data-attributes="member: 4235"><p>I am probably one of the few people on here who supports non-aggression... and swift, decisive defensive force when aggression is initiated by others. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree with you that it is absolutely expected that as soon as a cop sees a gun in the hand of a person he is stopping that he will shoot... which is why I pointed out that brandishing the gun, rather than immediately bringing it up and firing, was a really stupid thing for the late Mr. Collins to do. If anything in my previous comment indicated otherwise, it was unintentional. I was being tongue-in-cheek about the mental illness thing.</p><p></p><p>So much hate... in all fairness, it's not like I single out the police. I reserve these feelings for anybody who is willing to participate in the initiation of violence against other people. That includes lots of attorneys -- hell, a lot of politicians are attorneys, and Lord knows I hate them! </p><p></p><p>Maybe "hate" isn't the right word. I just find unprovoked violence to be morally abhorrent, regardless of who participates in it or what his justification is. I suppose it is the act itself that I hate. You know, "hate the sin, not the sinner." This is why I can be friends with people who do things I find objectionable, if they are otherwise good folks who I have something in common with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="henschman, post: 2740085, member: 4235"] I am probably one of the few people on here who supports non-aggression... and swift, decisive defensive force when aggression is initiated by others. I agree with you that it is absolutely expected that as soon as a cop sees a gun in the hand of a person he is stopping that he will shoot... which is why I pointed out that brandishing the gun, rather than immediately bringing it up and firing, was a really stupid thing for the late Mr. Collins to do. If anything in my previous comment indicated otherwise, it was unintentional. I was being tongue-in-cheek about the mental illness thing. So much hate... in all fairness, it's not like I single out the police. I reserve these feelings for anybody who is willing to participate in the initiation of violence against other people. That includes lots of attorneys -- hell, a lot of politicians are attorneys, and Lord knows I hate them! Maybe "hate" isn't the right word. I just find unprovoked violence to be morally abhorrent, regardless of who participates in it or what his justification is. I suppose it is the act itself that I hate. You know, "hate the sin, not the sinner." This is why I can be friends with people who do things I find objectionable, if they are otherwise good folks who I have something in common with. [/QUOTE]
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