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<blockquote data-quote="MoBoost" data-source="post: 1580894" data-attributes="member: 3455"><p>I guess it's a little different if it's "just" history and being part of it: three great-grandfathers and two of my great-grandmothers were killed by Nazis, my grandmother was taken to a German household as slave and done unspeakables to - she was 11. I was born in Voronezh - a 400-year-old city that has no old buildings, the city of 1,000,000 was completely leveled by heavy artillery. Growing up, EVERYBODY over the age of 50 was a veteran - I don't need to "learn" the history - it was told to me first hand. </p><p></p><p>Being a first generation immigrant - WWII is not just a piece of history on the other side of the pond, it's not a cool story in the book, it's a not an awesome blockbuster on a big screen - it is still very real to me. Nazi were/are/and will be taboo for me. I don't want to rub my world view onto everybody and I learned a lot of new stuff, and I'm ready to learn more. However, Nazi's evil is not a matter of "opinion" - it's a matter of fact.</p><p></p><p>No, front line line troops did not participate in mass murder of civilians - but it doesn't mean they showed mercy or any compassion to them: Nazis were inherently racist to the extreme - if you don't understand it, open the history book and read it till you will. For every combatant killed - they killed two civilians. </p><p></p><p>I don't have a problem with a weapon - you are right, it's just a tool. However, I do have a problem with the Nazis and their ideology. By carrying the swastika - the weapon becomes symbol of that ideology. And maybe some of you need to see that swastika so you can learn about the horrors that are attached to it - and I do see a great value in it; but for me there is no need for that lesson.</p><p></p><p>For me seeing a Nazi collectibles in private home is no different than seeing a white robe with red cross - and when you ask about it the best they can come up with is "Well, not ALL clan members were n****-haters". Yeah, it's a part of history, but once you learned it, do you really want to be associated with it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoBoost, post: 1580894, member: 3455"] I guess it's a little different if it's "just" history and being part of it: three great-grandfathers and two of my great-grandmothers were killed by Nazis, my grandmother was taken to a German household as slave and done unspeakables to - she was 11. I was born in Voronezh - a 400-year-old city that has no old buildings, the city of 1,000,000 was completely leveled by heavy artillery. Growing up, EVERYBODY over the age of 50 was a veteran - I don't need to "learn" the history - it was told to me first hand. Being a first generation immigrant - WWII is not just a piece of history on the other side of the pond, it's not a cool story in the book, it's a not an awesome blockbuster on a big screen - it is still very real to me. Nazi were/are/and will be taboo for me. I don't want to rub my world view onto everybody and I learned a lot of new stuff, and I'm ready to learn more. However, Nazi's evil is not a matter of "opinion" - it's a matter of fact. No, front line line troops did not participate in mass murder of civilians - but it doesn't mean they showed mercy or any compassion to them: Nazis were inherently racist to the extreme - if you don't understand it, open the history book and read it till you will. For every combatant killed - they killed two civilians. I don't have a problem with a weapon - you are right, it's just a tool. However, I do have a problem with the Nazis and their ideology. By carrying the swastika - the weapon becomes symbol of that ideology. And maybe some of you need to see that swastika so you can learn about the horrors that are attached to it - and I do see a great value in it; but for me there is no need for that lesson. For me seeing a Nazi collectibles in private home is no different than seeing a white robe with red cross - and when you ask about it the best they can come up with is "Well, not ALL clan members were n****-haters". Yeah, it's a part of history, but once you learned it, do you really want to be associated with it? [/QUOTE]
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