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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow" data-source="post: 1508926" data-attributes="member: 7123"><p>Dennis, click around on those links, then I'll fill you in on the details (what little I know). Velocities - not sure yet, but yes, that's the idea. Large bore (high expansion ratio) with light bullets equals much higher velocities. Plus, it's convenient, as .50 cal is THE standard now, as .45, .52, and .54 have all lost most of their popularity in recent years. Plus, the bullet is longer, giving it both a better BC and better penetration due to sectional density. You'll need a 28 or tighter twist in .50 cal to shoot the 195 duplex loads. But the 175s will probably work with looser twists. If I'm not mistaken, this Knight's smokepole is 28 twist.</p><p></p><p>My *guess* is that I could squeak up over 2K, but we'll see.</p><p></p><p>The accuracy is the big question mark, but there's testimonials of good to very good accuracy; we'll see on that count too. That's the most important thing by far, obviously. But look at this quote from my first link in my original post:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmmm, yeah, I'd say a .416 Rigby is enough for bambi. <img src="/images/smilies/eek.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":eek:" title="EEK! :eek:" data-shortname=":eek:" /></p><p></p><p>I sold my synthetic-stocked Savage 10ML II, before the announcement of discontinuance, in order to get the 10ML that I wanted - the laminated thumbhole stock 10ML. I would never have sold, had I known they were to be discontinued. There's a buy it now on a 10ML for $1,300 on gunbroker right now - and it's not even the stock I want - yowsa. Don't think I can go there, budget-wise, at the present time. So the next best thing is a T/C or Knight's. I sold my T/C 209/50 bbl as well in a money crunch, but still have two of these Knight's lying around. Knight's is back in business now, so it's all good as far as parts and such, near as I can tell. And these are excellent rifles by all accounts.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.knightrifles.com/" target="_blank">http://www.knightrifles.com/</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>okie4570, easier to ask forgiveness than permission; besides, the language is quite clear to me - the caliber refers to that of the rifle, not the bullet. Sabots are very commonly used, and would have been addressed had it been a concern. Besides, I've never even once ran into a game warden, other than at check stations; I cannot imagine that if I did, he'd really want to look at my ML bullets, or even care if he did. It's plenty humane/effective, and so I'm going for it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That'd be crazy-cool; let us know if you do it, and/or if you talk to any GWs yourself. <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow, post: 1508926, member: 7123"] Dennis, click around on those links, then I'll fill you in on the details (what little I know). Velocities - not sure yet, but yes, that's the idea. Large bore (high expansion ratio) with light bullets equals much higher velocities. Plus, it's convenient, as .50 cal is THE standard now, as .45, .52, and .54 have all lost most of their popularity in recent years. Plus, the bullet is longer, giving it both a better BC and better penetration due to sectional density. You'll need a 28 or tighter twist in .50 cal to shoot the 195 duplex loads. But the 175s will probably work with looser twists. If I'm not mistaken, this Knight's smokepole is 28 twist. My *guess* is that I could squeak up over 2K, but we'll see. The accuracy is the big question mark, but there's testimonials of good to very good accuracy; we'll see on that count too. That's the most important thing by far, obviously. But look at this quote from my first link in my original post: Hmmm, yeah, I'd say a .416 Rigby is enough for bambi. :eek: I sold my synthetic-stocked Savage 10ML II, before the announcement of discontinuance, in order to get the 10ML that I wanted - the laminated thumbhole stock 10ML. I would never have sold, had I known they were to be discontinued. There's a buy it now on a 10ML for $1,300 on gunbroker right now - and it's not even the stock I want - yowsa. Don't think I can go there, budget-wise, at the present time. So the next best thing is a T/C or Knight's. I sold my T/C 209/50 bbl as well in a money crunch, but still have two of these Knight's lying around. Knight's is back in business now, so it's all good as far as parts and such, near as I can tell. And these are excellent rifles by all accounts. [url]http://www.knightrifles.com/[/url] okie4570, easier to ask forgiveness than permission; besides, the language is quite clear to me - the caliber refers to that of the rifle, not the bullet. Sabots are very commonly used, and would have been addressed had it been a concern. Besides, I've never even once ran into a game warden, other than at check stations; I cannot imagine that if I did, he'd really want to look at my ML bullets, or even care if he did. It's plenty humane/effective, and so I'm going for it. That'd be crazy-cool; let us know if you do it, and/or if you talk to any GWs yourself. :D [/QUOTE]
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