Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
Latest activity
Classifieds
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Log in
Register
What's New?
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Navigation
Install the app
Install
More Options
Advertise with us
Contact Us
Close Menu
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Forums
The Water Cooler
General Discussion
My moon child sister in law
Search titles only
By:
Reply to Thread
This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
Message
<blockquote data-quote="CoolShi7Designer" data-source="post: 3625992" data-attributes="member: 48420"><p>quantum particles dont behave according to classical physics. they are fundamentally weird and do things that seem like magic at the macro scale. They can disappear and reappear on the other side of a solid object, they can be in multiple places at once and behave like a wave and a particle. The claim in pseudo-science is that ideas like in "the secret" or "what the bleep do we know about it" are real. that thinking with intention can have an effect on the physical reality around you. the test they show in "what the bleep..." was thinking good thoughts vs bad thoughts at water bottles while they freeze leads to differences in the crystal structures of the ice formed. This experiment has been repeated multiple times with scientists instead shwamalama ding-dongs selling mysticism and there are no repeatable results.</p><p>does thinking affect the physical universe? your brain fires using electrical signals, and numerous quantum interactions are happening every second in your brain, *but the quantum nature of individual particles does not extend to distances on our size scale* quantum weirdness becomes inconsequential because of the quadrillions of interactions any particle would have in any intervening space. anything weird, any aberrant fluctuation, any "intention" given to the particle would be completely lost within those intervening interactions over *any* distance except in very controlled environments like where they study quantum computing and superconducting.</p><p>What about thought "waves" that can influence many particles?</p><p>quantum particles are weird but still have rules. any form of interactable matter is made of sets of quarks (usually a group of 3) that form leptons. leptons are the stuff you learned about in school, protons and neutrons, the fundamental building blocks of matter. Electrons are fundamental and cant be divided. The point is, to affect a single atom of hydrogen, you must A) overcome the strong force (which is damn near impossible) or B) have a "thought wave" interact with the universal quantum electric field. The thought wave would have to affect all particles (3 quarks and an electron per hydrogen atom) in a meaningful way that overcomes all other status quo interactions, the thought wave would have to *not interact* with anyone else's thought waves so the signal was coherent, and the thought wave must be powerful enough to affect 6.02x10^23 hydrogen atoms to influence a single gram of the lightest possible atoms. With all that in mind, the idea of thinking at a water bottle and affecting the uncountable number of particles involved in a water bottle full of forming ice is insane. if we had the power to do that, then physics wouldn't be reproducible and the universe would be full of crazy **** not acting according to the laws of physics because people thought about "what if there was a star made of frogs?" half a million light years away.</p><p>imagine shooting a wave of cueballs at an ocean of pool balls and expecting something meaningful to happen because you did.</p><p>weird /= mystical.</p><p>beware of guru's and anyone explaining how stuff happens based on "science doesn't know, therefore, magic" especially if they have a book deal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CoolShi7Designer, post: 3625992, member: 48420"] quantum particles dont behave according to classical physics. they are fundamentally weird and do things that seem like magic at the macro scale. They can disappear and reappear on the other side of a solid object, they can be in multiple places at once and behave like a wave and a particle. The claim in pseudo-science is that ideas like in "the secret" or "what the bleep do we know about it" are real. that thinking with intention can have an effect on the physical reality around you. the test they show in "what the bleep..." was thinking good thoughts vs bad thoughts at water bottles while they freeze leads to differences in the crystal structures of the ice formed. This experiment has been repeated multiple times with scientists instead shwamalama ding-dongs selling mysticism and there are no repeatable results. does thinking affect the physical universe? your brain fires using electrical signals, and numerous quantum interactions are happening every second in your brain, *but the quantum nature of individual particles does not extend to distances on our size scale* quantum weirdness becomes inconsequential because of the quadrillions of interactions any particle would have in any intervening space. anything weird, any aberrant fluctuation, any "intention" given to the particle would be completely lost within those intervening interactions over *any* distance except in very controlled environments like where they study quantum computing and superconducting. What about thought "waves" that can influence many particles? quantum particles are weird but still have rules. any form of interactable matter is made of sets of quarks (usually a group of 3) that form leptons. leptons are the stuff you learned about in school, protons and neutrons, the fundamental building blocks of matter. Electrons are fundamental and cant be divided. The point is, to affect a single atom of hydrogen, you must A) overcome the strong force (which is damn near impossible) or B) have a "thought wave" interact with the universal quantum electric field. The thought wave would have to affect all particles (3 quarks and an electron per hydrogen atom) in a meaningful way that overcomes all other status quo interactions, the thought wave would have to *not interact* with anyone else's thought waves so the signal was coherent, and the thought wave must be powerful enough to affect 6.02x10^23 hydrogen atoms to influence a single gram of the lightest possible atoms. With all that in mind, the idea of thinking at a water bottle and affecting the uncountable number of particles involved in a water bottle full of forming ice is insane. if we had the power to do that, then physics wouldn't be reproducible and the universe would be full of crazy **** not acting according to the laws of physics because people thought about "what if there was a star made of frogs?" half a million light years away. imagine shooting a wave of cueballs at an ocean of pool balls and expecting something meaningful to happen because you did. weird /= mystical. beware of guru's and anyone explaining how stuff happens based on "science doesn't know, therefore, magic" especially if they have a book deal. [/QUOTE]
Insert Quotes…
Verification
Post Reply
Forums
The Water Cooler
General Discussion
My moon child sister in law
Search titles only
By:
Top
Bottom