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<blockquote data-quote="Rod Snell" data-source="post: 2880191" data-attributes="member: 796"><p>Absolutely correct. On the other hand, do you REALLY want to live in a state where you have to score 70% on the NRA 50 yard target to get a carry license, like Rhode Island?</p><p></p><p>Everyone wanting to make the OK handgun class have stricter requirements, including marksmanship and shooting standards, STOP and think what you're saying! Consider Australia where you have to join a club and pass a test to BUY a handgun.</p><p></p><p>Everyone who thinks training is A wonderful thing that each individual should do, but does not want State-dictated standards for exercising a right, I'm with you.</p><p></p><p>Remember when Oklahoma first started concealed carry, CLEET favored having everyone pass their regular LEO training test. That was opposed by people like me, who have been in states with such idiotic requirements.</p><p></p><p>IMHO, the Oklahoma handgun class is "terrible" mostly because some have NO idea what it is supposed to accomplish. And about 10% of the students never have shot the gun they bring, or maybe never shot ANY handgun. Another 10% are hot shots who want the class to be a tactical shooting lesson. And CLEET demands the shooting portion stay in, but the legislature forbids shooting standards, due to public pressure against them. The SDA idea is simply to demonstrate handling the firearm safely.</p><p></p><p>IMHO, the Utah training course is the best I've taught or taken. It's about safety, it is BIG TIME about laws, and if you want to shoot, go take an NRA or other class on your own.</p><p>And BEST OF ALL, the students know up front there is NO shooting for the class, and tend to LISTEN and PARTICIPATE, instead of wasting their time OBSESSING ABOUT THE SHOOTING.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rod Snell, post: 2880191, member: 796"] Absolutely correct. On the other hand, do you REALLY want to live in a state where you have to score 70% on the NRA 50 yard target to get a carry license, like Rhode Island? Everyone wanting to make the OK handgun class have stricter requirements, including marksmanship and shooting standards, STOP and think what you're saying! Consider Australia where you have to join a club and pass a test to BUY a handgun. Everyone who thinks training is A wonderful thing that each individual should do, but does not want State-dictated standards for exercising a right, I'm with you. Remember when Oklahoma first started concealed carry, CLEET favored having everyone pass their regular LEO training test. That was opposed by people like me, who have been in states with such idiotic requirements. IMHO, the Oklahoma handgun class is "terrible" mostly because some have NO idea what it is supposed to accomplish. And about 10% of the students never have shot the gun they bring, or maybe never shot ANY handgun. Another 10% are hot shots who want the class to be a tactical shooting lesson. And CLEET demands the shooting portion stay in, but the legislature forbids shooting standards, due to public pressure against them. The SDA idea is simply to demonstrate handling the firearm safely. IMHO, the Utah training course is the best I've taught or taken. It's about safety, it is BIG TIME about laws, and if you want to shoot, go take an NRA or other class on your own. And BEST OF ALL, the students know up front there is NO shooting for the class, and tend to LISTEN and PARTICIPATE, instead of wasting their time OBSESSING ABOUT THE SHOOTING. [/QUOTE]
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