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<blockquote data-quote="Riley" data-source="post: 3062623" data-attributes="member: 29196"><p>All true, and the FCC dealt with them without NN. For instance, a cut and paste from elsewhere....</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">2005, Madison River Communications was blocking VOIP services. The FCC put a stop to it. <a href="https://www.cnet.com/news/telco-agrees-to-stop-blocking-voip-calls/" target="_blank">Link</a>.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">2005, Comcast was denying access to p2p services without notifying customers. Was stopped by FCC from doing so. <a href="https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=a679f360-9890-4129-9d7e-53a598c3ac10" target="_blank">Link</a>.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">2007-2009, AT&T was having Skype and other VOIPs blocked because they didn't like there was competition for their cellphones. Pressured by FCC to stop. <a href="https://www.wired.com/2009/10/iphone-att-skype/" target="_blank">Link</a>.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">2011, MetroPCS tried to block all streaming except YouTube. <a href="https://www.wired.com/2011/01/metropcs-net-neutrality/" target="_blank">Link</a>.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">2011-2013, AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon were blocking access to Google Wallet because it competed with their ********. <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/06/technology/verizon_blocks_google_wallet/index.htm" target="_blank">Link</a>. Told by FCC not to do it, but I think they're still doing it.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">2012, Verizon was demanding google block tethering apps on android because it let owners avoid their $20 tethering fee. This was despite guaranteeing they wouldn't do that as part of a winning bid on an airwaves auction. <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2012/07/31/technology/verizon-tethering-apps/index.htm" target="_blank">Link</a>. Stopped by FCC.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">2012, AT&T tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money. <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-tech/post/atandt-lifts-facetime-restrictions-on-apple-iphones/2012/11/08/cbec36de-29de-11e2-b4e0-346287b7e56c_blog.html?utm_term=.72fe4d0fa857" target="_blank">Link</a>. Pressured to reconsider by FCC.</li> </ul><p></p><p></p><p>In my estimation this is more about media trying to figure out to monterize the web since conventional revenues have been falling. I sometimes wonder if they ever consider the fact of their politicization and it's impact on revenue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Riley, post: 3062623, member: 29196"] All true, and the FCC dealt with them without NN. For instance, a cut and paste from elsewhere.... [LIST] [*]2005, Madison River Communications was blocking VOIP services. The FCC put a stop to it. [URL='https://www.cnet.com/news/telco-agrees-to-stop-blocking-voip-calls/']Link[/URL]. [*]2005, Comcast was denying access to p2p services without notifying customers. Was stopped by FCC from doing so. [URL='https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=a679f360-9890-4129-9d7e-53a598c3ac10']Link[/URL]. [*]2007-2009, AT&T was having Skype and other VOIPs blocked because they didn't like there was competition for their cellphones. Pressured by FCC to stop. [URL='https://www.wired.com/2009/10/iphone-att-skype/']Link[/URL]. [*]2011, MetroPCS tried to block all streaming except YouTube. [URL='https://www.wired.com/2011/01/metropcs-net-neutrality/']Link[/URL]. [*]2011-2013, AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon were blocking access to Google Wallet because it competed with their ********. [URL='http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/06/technology/verizon_blocks_google_wallet/index.htm']Link[/URL]. Told by FCC not to do it, but I think they're still doing it. [*]2012, Verizon was demanding google block tethering apps on android because it let owners avoid their $20 tethering fee. This was despite guaranteeing they wouldn't do that as part of a winning bid on an airwaves auction. [URL='http://money.cnn.com/2012/07/31/technology/verizon-tethering-apps/index.htm']Link[/URL]. Stopped by FCC. [*]2012, AT&T tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money. [URL='https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-tech/post/atandt-lifts-facetime-restrictions-on-apple-iphones/2012/11/08/cbec36de-29de-11e2-b4e0-346287b7e56c_blog.html?utm_term=.72fe4d0fa857']Link[/URL]. Pressured to reconsider by FCC. [/LIST] In my estimation this is more about media trying to figure out to monterize the web since conventional revenues have been falling. I sometimes wonder if they ever consider the fact of their politicization and it's impact on revenue. [/QUOTE]
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