New Mexico - Long Range Muzzleloader Elk Hunt

[JEVapa]

I just can't see with iron sights with my eyes, one is in focus but not the other.

You close your nonfiring eye with Irons...basic rifle marksmanship.

 

[JEVapa]

No scopes for next year on Muzzleloaders in NM.
https://nmwildlife.org/nm-state-game-commission-bans-scopes-on-muzzleloaders/

Use these instead.
https://www.possibleshop.com/rifle-creedmore-sight.html
Or any other target sights..."long Range muzzle loader target sights" search pulls up an endless stream of sources.

 

[Dorkus]

You close your nonfiring eye with Irons...basic rifle marksmanship.

You have zero clue on my condition and by the way it doesn’t work. Thanks for playing optometrist on the internet. Try some “basic courtesy” next time.

 

[JEVapa]

ok, if you say so. Your argument for a scope is baseless unless you have an actual medical exemption. It's opinion IMO. Maybe you shouldn't be shooting stuff if you can't see sh*t.
Try something that's not bullsh*t next time.

 

[retrieverman]

I will play by whatever rules a state dictates, but if they allow a scope on a muzzleloader or a crossbow during archery season, I’m taking advantage of every benefit I can.

 

[OKRuss]

I will play by whatever rules a state dictates, but if they allow a scope on a muzzleloader or a crossbow during archery season, I’m taking advantage of every benefit I can.

And I have no qualms whatsoever with that. If it's legal, go for it. I was merely stating my opinion on how I'd like to see the requirements structured. Even with those medical exemptions, there are MANY who can get a dr to just write them a note saying the pain is too much to pull a compound bow.

If compound bows are now that much better than recurves which are technically further advanced than a longbow and now we have cross bows above compounds. What's to keep our rules from being changed to just having a hunting season and no specific weapon dates? Combine archery and ML since effective ranges are about the same? What will it do to the deer population, if anything, when cross bows are shooting 500 fps and making 100+ yard shots? More wounded deer is my guess. I know that I don't practice nearly as much with my rifle as I do my compound so stands to reason a cross bow with scope won't get lots of use before season either.

 

[Jcann]

For long range muzzle loader are they using something like this?

https://www.gaprecision.net/custom-precision-rifles/all-rifles/ga-precision-muzzle-loader.html

 

[Dorkus]

For long range muzzle loader are they using something like this?

https://www.gaprecision.net/custom-precision-rifles/all-rifles/ga-precision-muzzle-loader.html

Wow, that is $$$$$$$.

 

[Jcann]

Wow, that is $$$$$$$.

Yes, you’ve got to have some scratch to buy it but I’m sure it lives up to its expectations. I have no need for it but there are some that do. We just need to find out who they are so we can borrow it every now and then.

 

[BobbyV]

Dorkus and BobbyV, I agree with both of your stances and we do need to keep/recruit hunters so definitely not trying to start a pi$$ing match. I just think the cross bow and inline ML should be in a rifle season UNLESS you have a medical reason. Blew a shoulder out and can't draw a compound/recurve/longbow, then get an exception to use cross bow during archery season. If you need a scope on your cross bow or ML, it should be used during rifle season IMO unless a documented medical reason exists. Too many folks IMO that will just make something up to increase their chances of success in the field. To me, part of archery hunting is getting close(under 30 yds) and being able to draw my bow(compound) without being detected. It's not sitting in an enclosed blind 50-75 yards away with a loaded/drawn cross bow on a bipod/tripod stand and a 3-9 powered scope I just have to lean into and pull the trigger. That's shooting not hunting IMO.

Somewhere there has to be a line drawn or you're going to end up going to limited draw licenses due to the fact that more game animals are being taken than biologists deem fit. Part of that would be due to advancements in technology. Longbow with no sights and wooden arrow with flint knapped broadheads would be before recurves so those shooters are "cheating" too.

I spent most of my hunting years in CO and guess I'm a little biased on their approach on what "qualifies" as an acceptable weapon for each season(archery, ML, rifle). No cross bows in archery season without a medical reason. No inline ML or scopes during ML season.

There are folks with compound bow equipment and skill capable of taking longer shots than many of us can with a crossbow. I own a couple of crossbows and a compound bow. I prefer a crossbow when shooting from a ground blind, but use my compound bow when in a tree stand. The scope I have doesn't really provide anything other than a drop line. I don't notice any magnification at all.

Regardless, you still have to be able to make the shot and actually locate an animal. Shooting, hunting, or whatever is never a guarantee of bringing home anything. Even with all of the fancy new equipment.

I have a lifetime license and have killed more than one deer in a season once. I think I'm safe in saying that everyone other lifetime license holder isn't putting 6 or so in their freezer every year and that most OTC license holders aren't either.

Do we get to rag on cell game cameras next?