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<blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 3659894" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>Not sure I can answer all of your questions or comments with the VA hospital in OKC and the VA contracted private Dr. I see in Blackwell as the only VA related services I've received since exiting the military in the 70's.</p><p>I actually refused VA care back in the day, wanting nothing to do with the government after finding out how democrats lied to the American Public to start the Vietnam war causing the death and wounding of hundreds of thousands of America's finest based on a lie.</p><p>Worked in businesses that offered medical insurance, using that for care.</p><p>Finally met up with a guy that turned out to be a VA Veterans Representative.</p><p>Talked for a long time and he finally convinced me to apply to the VA and it's been a life changer since. There isn't just the injury involved, but the aftermath mentally that most civilian medical organizations can't recognize that can exacerbate the medical condition the veteran is going through. I'm speaking in generality's here, not me personally.</p><p>That to me is a big issue over private care where that may not be a determination during a diagnosis.</p><p>Most private medical facilities aren't equipped to recognize late term depression or PTSD. The VA has specialist that do know how to recognize and treat that along with 24/7 help lines for the vet suffering those conditions. Suicide among vets is way above suicide among non veterans.</p><p>Congress under obama in 2018 after scandalous reporting about vets dying because of health care delays in the VA passed a bill called known as "community care".</p><p>Every vet that was eligible got a credit card looking thing to give to a local provider if you couldn't make it to the VA.</p><p>It was an object failure. Zero private medical doctors in the Midwest even knew of it's existence that my self and fellow vets could find after applying. There was an 800 number to call to see if you were eligible for a treatment that day, but nobody answered or the phones were totally busy for hours.</p><p>Those medical facility's that did know about it said the government requirements were so regulatory that they refused to be a part of that program as I read later.</p><p>Along comes Trump. He created the MISSION Act to create a permanent program that has given millions of veterans guaranteed choice and access to community care.</p><p>It actually works if your not near a VA facility.</p><p>That being said, with me being over 100 miles away from the OKC hospital I tried the mission act one time. They were willing to see me, but the only facility was in Tulsa, a hundred miles away from me on the other side of the state.</p><p>If your in a metropolitan area, your covered, but the rural areas are out of luck if there is not a VA contracted medical clinic like we have in Blackwell.</p><p>Very few of those in Oklahoma. The government doesn't pay well.</p><p>I had a colonostophy by a highly rated DR in OKC. He said no issues and see you in 10 years. Three years later started having issues, and the VA wanted another colonostophy so went back to the highly rated DR in OKC. He again said no issues.</p><p>The VA didn't believe it and scheduled another a month later finding several polyps that the private Gastro Dr didn't. Pictures to prove it.</p><p>VA hospitals on the East Coast including what is supposed to be the best of the best at Walter Reed and Bethesda Maryland have been found to be among the worst in providing medical care to vets. There were news photo's of black mold in rooms that were supposed to be sterile or close to it.</p><p>They found and fixed the issue according to reports, but I'd still be suspect of getting care there.</p><p>I have found the staff at the OKC VA to be very personable and helpful.</p><p>So, I've answered some of your questions and probably didn't some others. I'm more than willing to hear and discuss more. I may learn something.</p><p></p><p>Edited to move a sentence.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dennishoddy, post: 3659894, member: 5412"] Not sure I can answer all of your questions or comments with the VA hospital in OKC and the VA contracted private Dr. I see in Blackwell as the only VA related services I've received since exiting the military in the 70's. I actually refused VA care back in the day, wanting nothing to do with the government after finding out how democrats lied to the American Public to start the Vietnam war causing the death and wounding of hundreds of thousands of America's finest based on a lie. Worked in businesses that offered medical insurance, using that for care. Finally met up with a guy that turned out to be a VA Veterans Representative. Talked for a long time and he finally convinced me to apply to the VA and it's been a life changer since. There isn't just the injury involved, but the aftermath mentally that most civilian medical organizations can't recognize that can exacerbate the medical condition the veteran is going through. I'm speaking in generality's here, not me personally. That to me is a big issue over private care where that may not be a determination during a diagnosis. Most private medical facilities aren't equipped to recognize late term depression or PTSD. The VA has specialist that do know how to recognize and treat that along with 24/7 help lines for the vet suffering those conditions. Suicide among vets is way above suicide among non veterans. Congress under obama in 2018 after scandalous reporting about vets dying because of health care delays in the VA passed a bill called known as "community care". Every vet that was eligible got a credit card looking thing to give to a local provider if you couldn't make it to the VA. It was an object failure. Zero private medical doctors in the Midwest even knew of it's existence that my self and fellow vets could find after applying. There was an 800 number to call to see if you were eligible for a treatment that day, but nobody answered or the phones were totally busy for hours. Those medical facility's that did know about it said the government requirements were so regulatory that they refused to be a part of that program as I read later. Along comes Trump. He created the MISSION Act to create a permanent program that has given millions of veterans guaranteed choice and access to community care. It actually works if your not near a VA facility. That being said, with me being over 100 miles away from the OKC hospital I tried the mission act one time. They were willing to see me, but the only facility was in Tulsa, a hundred miles away from me on the other side of the state. If your in a metropolitan area, your covered, but the rural areas are out of luck if there is not a VA contracted medical clinic like we have in Blackwell. Very few of those in Oklahoma. The government doesn't pay well. I had a colonostophy by a highly rated DR in OKC. He said no issues and see you in 10 years. Three years later started having issues, and the VA wanted another colonostophy so went back to the highly rated DR in OKC. He again said no issues. The VA didn't believe it and scheduled another a month later finding several polyps that the private Gastro Dr didn't. Pictures to prove it. VA hospitals on the East Coast including what is supposed to be the best of the best at Walter Reed and Bethesda Maryland have been found to be among the worst in providing medical care to vets. There were news photo's of black mold in rooms that were supposed to be sterile or close to it. They found and fixed the issue according to reports, but I'd still be suspect of getting care there. I have found the staff at the OKC VA to be very personable and helpful. So, I've answered some of your questions and probably didn't some others. I'm more than willing to hear and discuss more. I may learn something. Edited to move a sentence. [/QUOTE]
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