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<blockquote data-quote="SMS" data-source="post: 1646572" data-attributes="member: 42"><p>Gun dealers and 'some guy on the phone' don't constitute evidence of a systemic connection between an other government agency issued security clearances and the FBI-maintained NCIC. I have never seen anything from anyone or any agency that showed that link. Having a security clearance is in no way related to having a criminal record...there is no logical connection.</p><p></p><p>It's always: "Well, this dude told me" or "Well, I've got three DUI's and a couple busts for possession and an assault charge. Oh, and I had an entrance Secret security clearance 10 years ago, so yeah it must be the clearance that caused my delay."</p><p></p><p>I'd be happy to be proved wrong but we need something concrete.</p><p></p><p>Here's what the NCIC database includes:</p><p></p><p>Categories of individuals covered by the system: </p><p></p><p></p><p> <strong>A. Wanted Persons:</strong> </p><p> 1. Individuals for whom Federal warrants are outstanding.</p><p> 2. Individuals who have committed or have been identified with an </p><p> offense which is classified as a felony or serious misdemeanor under </p><p> the existing penal statutes of the jurisdiction originating the entry </p><p> and for whom a felony or misdemeanor warrant has been issued with </p><p> respect to the offense which was the basis of the entry. Probation and </p><p> parole violators meeting the foregoing criteria.</p><p> 3. A "Temporary Felony Want" may be entered when a law enforcement </p><p> agency has need to take prompt action to establish a "want" entry </p><p> for the apprehension of a person who has committed or the officer has </p><p> reasonable grounds to believe has committed, a felony and who may seek </p><p> refuge by fleeing across jurisdictional boundaries and circumstances </p><p> preclude the immediate procurement of a felony warrant. A "Temporary </p><p> Felony Want" shall be specifically identified as such and subject to </p><p> verification and support by a proper warrant within 48 hours following </p><p> the entry of a temporary want. The agency originating the "Temporary </p><p> Felony Want" shall be responsible for subsequent verification or re-</p><p> entry of a permanent want.</p><p> 4. Juveniles who have been adjudicated delinquent and who have escaped </p><p> or absconded from custody, even though no arrest warrants were issued. </p><p> Juveniles who have been charged with the commission of a delinquent </p><p> act that would be a crime if committed by an adult, and who have fled </p><p> from the state where the act was committed.</p><p> 5. Individuals who have committed or have been identified with an </p><p> offense committed in a foreign country, which would be a felony if </p><p> committed in the United States, and for whom a warrant of arrest is </p><p> outstanding and for which act an extradition treaty exists between the </p><p> United States and that country.</p><p> 6. Individuals who have committed or have been identified with an </p><p> offense committed in Canada and for whom a Canada-Wide Warrant has </p><p> been issued which meets the requirements of the Canada-U.S. </p><p> Extradition Treaty, 18 U.S.C. 3184.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>B. Individuals who have been charged with serious and/or significant </strong></p><p><strong> offenses:</strong> </p><p> 1. Individuals who have been fingerprinted and whose criminal history </p><p> record information has been obtained.</p><p> 2. Violent Felons: Persons with three or more convictions for a </p><p> violent felony or serious drug offense as defined by 18 U.S.C. </p><p> Sec. 924(e).</p><p> </p><p> <strong>C. Missing Persons: </strong> </p><p> 1. A person of any age who is missing and who is </p><p> under proven physical/mental disability or is senile, thereby </p><p> subjecting that person or others to personal and immediate danger.</p><p> 2. A person of any age who is missing under circumstances indicating </p><p> that the disappearance was not voluntary.</p><p> 3. A person of any age who is missing under circumstances indicating </p><p> that that person's physical safety may be in danger.</p><p> 4. A person of any age who is missing after a catastrophe.</p><p> 5. A person who is missing and declared unemancipated as defined by </p><p> the laws of the person's state of residence and does not meet any of </p><p> the entry criteria set forth in 1-4 above.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>D. Individuals designated by the U.S. Secret Service as posing a </strong></p><p><strong> potential danger to the President and/or other authorized protectees.</strong> </p><p></p><p> <strong>E. Members of Violent Criminal Gangs:</strong> Individuals about whom </p><p> investigation has developed sufficient information to establish </p><p> membership in a particular violent criminal gang by either:</p><p> 1. Self admission at the time of arrest or incarceration, or</p><p> 2. Any two of the following criteria:</p><p> a. Identified as a gang member by a reliable informant;</p><p> b. Identified as a gang member by an informant whose information has </p><p> been corroborated;</p><p> c. Frequents a gang's area, associates with known members, and/or </p><p> affects gang dress, tattoos, or hand signals;</p><p> d. Has been arrested multiple times with known gang members for </p><p> offenses consistent with gang activity; or</p><p> e. Self admission (other than at the time of arrest or incarceration).</p><p> </p><p> <strong> F. Members of Terrorist Organizations:</strong> Individuals about whom </p><p> investigations has developed sufficient information to establish </p><p> membership in a particular terrorist organization using the same </p><p> criteria listed above in paragraph E, items 1 and 2 a-e, as they apply </p><p> to members of terrorist organizations rather than members of violent </p><p> criminal gangs.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>G. Unidentified Persons: </strong>1. Any unidentified deceased person. 2. Any </p><p> person who is living and unable to ascertain the person's identity </p><p> (e.g., infant, amnesia victim). 3. Any unidentified catastrophe </p><p> victim. 4. Body parts when a body has been dismembered.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SMS, post: 1646572, member: 42"] Gun dealers and 'some guy on the phone' don't constitute evidence of a systemic connection between an other government agency issued security clearances and the FBI-maintained NCIC. I have never seen anything from anyone or any agency that showed that link. Having a security clearance is in no way related to having a criminal record...there is no logical connection. It's always: "Well, this dude told me" or "Well, I've got three DUI's and a couple busts for possession and an assault charge. Oh, and I had an entrance Secret security clearance 10 years ago, so yeah it must be the clearance that caused my delay." I'd be happy to be proved wrong but we need something concrete. Here's what the NCIC database includes: Categories of individuals covered by the system: [B]A. Wanted Persons:[/B] 1. Individuals for whom Federal warrants are outstanding. 2. Individuals who have committed or have been identified with an offense which is classified as a felony or serious misdemeanor under the existing penal statutes of the jurisdiction originating the entry and for whom a felony or misdemeanor warrant has been issued with respect to the offense which was the basis of the entry. Probation and parole violators meeting the foregoing criteria. 3. A "Temporary Felony Want" may be entered when a law enforcement agency has need to take prompt action to establish a "want" entry for the apprehension of a person who has committed or the officer has reasonable grounds to believe has committed, a felony and who may seek refuge by fleeing across jurisdictional boundaries and circumstances preclude the immediate procurement of a felony warrant. A "Temporary Felony Want" shall be specifically identified as such and subject to verification and support by a proper warrant within 48 hours following the entry of a temporary want. The agency originating the "Temporary Felony Want" shall be responsible for subsequent verification or re- entry of a permanent want. 4. Juveniles who have been adjudicated delinquent and who have escaped or absconded from custody, even though no arrest warrants were issued. Juveniles who have been charged with the commission of a delinquent act that would be a crime if committed by an adult, and who have fled from the state where the act was committed. 5. Individuals who have committed or have been identified with an offense committed in a foreign country, which would be a felony if committed in the United States, and for whom a warrant of arrest is outstanding and for which act an extradition treaty exists between the United States and that country. 6. Individuals who have committed or have been identified with an offense committed in Canada and for whom a Canada-Wide Warrant has been issued which meets the requirements of the Canada-U.S. Extradition Treaty, 18 U.S.C. 3184. [B]B. Individuals who have been charged with serious and/or significant offenses:[/B] 1. Individuals who have been fingerprinted and whose criminal history record information has been obtained. 2. Violent Felons: Persons with three or more convictions for a violent felony or serious drug offense as defined by 18 U.S.C. Sec. 924(e). [B]C. Missing Persons: [/B] 1. A person of any age who is missing and who is under proven physical/mental disability or is senile, thereby subjecting that person or others to personal and immediate danger. 2. A person of any age who is missing under circumstances indicating that the disappearance was not voluntary. 3. A person of any age who is missing under circumstances indicating that that person's physical safety may be in danger. 4. A person of any age who is missing after a catastrophe. 5. A person who is missing and declared unemancipated as defined by the laws of the person's state of residence and does not meet any of the entry criteria set forth in 1-4 above. [B]D. Individuals designated by the U.S. Secret Service as posing a potential danger to the President and/or other authorized protectees.[/B] [B]E. Members of Violent Criminal Gangs:[/B] Individuals about whom investigation has developed sufficient information to establish membership in a particular violent criminal gang by either: 1. Self admission at the time of arrest or incarceration, or 2. Any two of the following criteria: a. Identified as a gang member by a reliable informant; b. Identified as a gang member by an informant whose information has been corroborated; c. Frequents a gang's area, associates with known members, and/or affects gang dress, tattoos, or hand signals; d. Has been arrested multiple times with known gang members for offenses consistent with gang activity; or e. Self admission (other than at the time of arrest or incarceration). [B] F. Members of Terrorist Organizations:[/B] Individuals about whom investigations has developed sufficient information to establish membership in a particular terrorist organization using the same criteria listed above in paragraph E, items 1 and 2 a-e, as they apply to members of terrorist organizations rather than members of violent criminal gangs. [B]G. Unidentified Persons: [/B]1. Any unidentified deceased person. 2. Any person who is living and unable to ascertain the person's identity (e.g., infant, amnesia victim). 3. Any unidentified catastrophe victim. 4. Body parts when a body has been dismembered. [/QUOTE]
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