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<blockquote data-quote="Norinoo" data-source="post: 2887553" data-attributes="member: 40235"><p>Outside of the Bible itself there is very little to substantiate any of it's stories as factual. While I was a Christian I started asking myself questions about my faith. All the answers to my questions came from the Bible or commentary on the Bible which was convenient but not worthy of acceptance as fact. No answers came from outside sources. This then was the beginning of the end of my Christianity several decades ago. My 'belief' didn't equate to fact which lead to my rejecting Christianity as nothing but another dead end in my desire to understand the Creator of the universe (God). I came to the realization that the Bible was written by Jews to self-serve the Jews and their claim to being 'God's Chosen' so the claim is entirely one sided and thus can be discounted as worthless. If you were to write a book more than likely you would write about yourself in a favorable light. This is what the writers of the Bible seemed to have done. This being the case, I reject it as propaganda.</p><p></p><p>I'll disagree on your assertion that the Quran teaches violence towards people of other beliefs. Having read the Quran I never discovered any passage within it that literally suggested physical violence towards others. The few versus that talk of 'fighting' when taken in full context of the passage is easily discernible as spiritual fighting. When I first began reading the Quran I was amazed at the reverence it had for the prophets of the OT, of Mary, of Jesus and so on. So much of the diatribe against the Quran by criminals in suits hiding behind Christianity in Washington was nothing but lies. Had I not read the Quran for myself I probably would still accept the lies as truth when the lies are nothing but false. I made a few friends who were Muslim and they have no ill feelings against those who call themselves Jews. They do have an issue with Zionist, both which come in Jew and non-Jew flavors. A neighbor of mine is a Christian Zionist and a complete tool. Unfortunately the label Jew combines a subset ethnic group of people and a religion into one entity. I have a difficult time calling an atheist 'Jew' an adherent of Judaism as much as I would calling an atheist Irishman a Christian.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Norinoo, post: 2887553, member: 40235"] Outside of the Bible itself there is very little to substantiate any of it's stories as factual. While I was a Christian I started asking myself questions about my faith. All the answers to my questions came from the Bible or commentary on the Bible which was convenient but not worthy of acceptance as fact. No answers came from outside sources. This then was the beginning of the end of my Christianity several decades ago. My 'belief' didn't equate to fact which lead to my rejecting Christianity as nothing but another dead end in my desire to understand the Creator of the universe (God). I came to the realization that the Bible was written by Jews to self-serve the Jews and their claim to being 'God's Chosen' so the claim is entirely one sided and thus can be discounted as worthless. If you were to write a book more than likely you would write about yourself in a favorable light. This is what the writers of the Bible seemed to have done. This being the case, I reject it as propaganda. I'll disagree on your assertion that the Quran teaches violence towards people of other beliefs. Having read the Quran I never discovered any passage within it that literally suggested physical violence towards others. The few versus that talk of 'fighting' when taken in full context of the passage is easily discernible as spiritual fighting. When I first began reading the Quran I was amazed at the reverence it had for the prophets of the OT, of Mary, of Jesus and so on. So much of the diatribe against the Quran by criminals in suits hiding behind Christianity in Washington was nothing but lies. Had I not read the Quran for myself I probably would still accept the lies as truth when the lies are nothing but false. I made a few friends who were Muslim and they have no ill feelings against those who call themselves Jews. They do have an issue with Zionist, both which come in Jew and non-Jew flavors. A neighbor of mine is a Christian Zionist and a complete tool. Unfortunately the label Jew combines a subset ethnic group of people and a religion into one entity. I have a difficult time calling an atheist 'Jew' an adherent of Judaism as much as I would calling an atheist Irishman a Christian. [/QUOTE]
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