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<blockquote data-quote="Traxxis" data-source="post: 2149004" data-attributes="member: 8980"><p><a href="http://www.ok.gov/governor/OpenCarryFAQ.html" target="_blank">http://www.ok.gov/governor/OpenCarryFAQ.html</a></p><p></p><p>Verbal notification is sufficient. There does not appear to be any provisions specifying when the business must tell you they do not welcome open carry, but IMO, once they inform you that they prohibit it, you are then required to abide by their request. Should you chose to leave your food uneaten, or bag it up and take it with you, you were legally asked to leave. </p><p></p><p>Remember, the Bill of Rights exists to protect US from the .GOV, not to protect us from ourselves. Therefore, Arby's cannot violate your 2nd amendment rights because they do not apply to a private establishment.</p><p></p><p>Also, a business has the right to refuse service to anybody so long as it isn't based on RACE, GENDER, RELIGIOUS or SEXUAL PREFERENCE (there might be a couple I'm forgetting... but these are the biggies and they get the point across).</p><p></p><p>I think it is reasonable that he asked you to conceal it, even though you weren't told this by the first employee to see you... I'm not saying I agree with it, but within the confines of what the state has provided, I think it is reasonable. I also think it is reasonable to discuss it with the manager, but ultimately, the manager is charged with running the establishment (I believe the legal term is "officer", but don't quote me... as this is all opinion), regardless of whether or not the actual owner is present.</p><p></p><p>Again, all of this is opinion, and it's worth what you pay for it. I wish you the best, but I feel this is a losing battle with anybody outside of a firearm forum. :/</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Traxxis, post: 2149004, member: 8980"] [url]http://www.ok.gov/governor/OpenCarryFAQ.html[/url] Verbal notification is sufficient. There does not appear to be any provisions specifying when the business must tell you they do not welcome open carry, but IMO, once they inform you that they prohibit it, you are then required to abide by their request. Should you chose to leave your food uneaten, or bag it up and take it with you, you were legally asked to leave. Remember, the Bill of Rights exists to protect US from the .GOV, not to protect us from ourselves. Therefore, Arby's cannot violate your 2nd amendment rights because they do not apply to a private establishment. Also, a business has the right to refuse service to anybody so long as it isn't based on RACE, GENDER, RELIGIOUS or SEXUAL PREFERENCE (there might be a couple I'm forgetting... but these are the biggies and they get the point across). I think it is reasonable that he asked you to conceal it, even though you weren't told this by the first employee to see you... I'm not saying I agree with it, but within the confines of what the state has provided, I think it is reasonable. I also think it is reasonable to discuss it with the manager, but ultimately, the manager is charged with running the establishment (I believe the legal term is "officer", but don't quote me... as this is all opinion), regardless of whether or not the actual owner is present. Again, all of this is opinion, and it's worth what you pay for it. I wish you the best, but I feel this is a losing battle with anybody outside of a firearm forum. :/ [/QUOTE]
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