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<blockquote data-quote="PJM" data-source="post: 3259955" data-attributes="member: 44841"><p>I've read through this whole thread and there are good points on both sides. I cannot but help to fall back on a saying I've heard many times in my life. STUPID HURTS! This person may well have been within their rights, but they were far beyond the borders of responsible utilization of those rights. I can tell you if I had been in that store I would have been checking to make sure my M-43 was locked and loaded because no fool is going to be turning my family into target practice. Here's where I have issues with these audits. Is it really the public's job to educate the police? If I remember correctly that is what the person in the OK 2A audit said to the police. The police responded in a very appropriate way, he (the shift sargent) told the person that if they want to do this then they need to let the PD know so nobody gets unintentionally shot! That if this person feels like the police need more training in this they should have voiced their concerns to the town officials and maybe even arrange to come down to the station to show them (the police) that what they were looking at was by ATF definition, a pistol, and educate them that way. That walking through a park with families and children with a loaded AR was not the brightest way to achieve their purpose. I FULLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT OFFICER TOLD THAT PERSON! Walking into WalMart decked out for the zombie apocalypse while people are STILL in a state of heightened awareness over the other two shootings was tantamount to suicide by cop. This person's actions will indeed have negative connotations for every single one of the 140 million + guns owners in this country, and that to me is neither responsible nor demonstrating the kind of judgement that I want someone who is carrying a firearm to show.</p><p>Just my two cents, spend it wisely.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PJM, post: 3259955, member: 44841"] I've read through this whole thread and there are good points on both sides. I cannot but help to fall back on a saying I've heard many times in my life. STUPID HURTS! This person may well have been within their rights, but they were far beyond the borders of responsible utilization of those rights. I can tell you if I had been in that store I would have been checking to make sure my M-43 was locked and loaded because no fool is going to be turning my family into target practice. Here's where I have issues with these audits. Is it really the public's job to educate the police? If I remember correctly that is what the person in the OK 2A audit said to the police. The police responded in a very appropriate way, he (the shift sargent) told the person that if they want to do this then they need to let the PD know so nobody gets unintentionally shot! That if this person feels like the police need more training in this they should have voiced their concerns to the town officials and maybe even arrange to come down to the station to show them (the police) that what they were looking at was by ATF definition, a pistol, and educate them that way. That walking through a park with families and children with a loaded AR was not the brightest way to achieve their purpose. I FULLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT OFFICER TOLD THAT PERSON! Walking into WalMart decked out for the zombie apocalypse while people are STILL in a state of heightened awareness over the other two shootings was tantamount to suicide by cop. This person's actions will indeed have negative connotations for every single one of the 140 million + guns owners in this country, and that to me is neither responsible nor demonstrating the kind of judgement that I want someone who is carrying a firearm to show. Just my two cents, spend it wisely. [/QUOTE]
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