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<blockquote data-quote="RidgeHunter" data-source="post: 1608532" data-attributes="member: 4319"><p>Politics and big business are one and the same. He who has the gold makes the rules, and that ain't no jive.</p><p></p><p>You're absolutely correct petroleum has a large effect on the economy. What you're missing is that it's inevitable. Do you think cheap oil was gonna last forever? Again, the whole exponential growth in a finite world deal. Sure some of the reasons might be manufactured, but even if they weren't sheet is gonna come to a head in relatively short amount of time for reasons that ain't manufactured. Oil is a limited resource, cheap and easily accessible oil is an even more limited resource. You can postpone it all you want, but the fact is it's gonna get scarce, it's gonna get expensive or it's gonna get both. No real change will happen until it's no longer feasible to depend on oil and use it like we do. As long as we can, we will. As long as we buy it, they will sell it.</p><p></p><p>You've said repeatedly the oil companies are the primary cause of the recession. That's like when people count 90 year hospital dwellers as "flu deaths". The flu didn't kill great-grandpa, it just showed death where he's been hiding for the last 35 years.</p><p></p><p>Sure some of it smells of monopoly, but so does every big corporation. At least big oil gives us domestic manufacturing and office jobs that pay decent, a redeeming quality that can't be said for other giants (retail?). Again that brings me to the fact that without big oil Oklahoma would be up crude creek without a barrel. Like it or not.</p><p> </p><p>Dale00 is right. It's the number one economic ***** because everyone buys gas and it's in your face every day. For some reason people think we can go on forever like the old days and any change is someone out to screw them. We're proving we can't go on like this. If everything was peaches and cream and Ghandi ran the oil biz we might go on for a little while, but that's just whistling past the graveyard. Once you hit the backside of curve, things are going to change and they are going to change fast. </p><p></p><p>The oil situation is a symptom of our disease, not the cause.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RidgeHunter, post: 1608532, member: 4319"] Politics and big business are one and the same. He who has the gold makes the rules, and that ain't no jive. You're absolutely correct petroleum has a large effect on the economy. What you're missing is that it's inevitable. Do you think cheap oil was gonna last forever? Again, the whole exponential growth in a finite world deal. Sure some of the reasons might be manufactured, but even if they weren't sheet is gonna come to a head in relatively short amount of time for reasons that ain't manufactured. Oil is a limited resource, cheap and easily accessible oil is an even more limited resource. You can postpone it all you want, but the fact is it's gonna get scarce, it's gonna get expensive or it's gonna get both. No real change will happen until it's no longer feasible to depend on oil and use it like we do. As long as we can, we will. As long as we buy it, they will sell it. You've said repeatedly the oil companies are the primary cause of the recession. That's like when people count 90 year hospital dwellers as "flu deaths". The flu didn't kill great-grandpa, it just showed death where he's been hiding for the last 35 years. Sure some of it smells of monopoly, but so does every big corporation. At least big oil gives us domestic manufacturing and office jobs that pay decent, a redeeming quality that can't be said for other giants (retail?). Again that brings me to the fact that without big oil Oklahoma would be up crude creek without a barrel. Like it or not. Dale00 is right. It's the number one economic ***** because everyone buys gas and it's in your face every day. For some reason people think we can go on forever like the old days and any change is someone out to screw them. We're proving we can't go on like this. If everything was peaches and cream and Ghandi ran the oil biz we might go on for a little while, but that's just whistling past the graveyard. Once you hit the backside of curve, things are going to change and they are going to change fast. The oil situation is a symptom of our disease, not the cause. [/QUOTE]
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