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<blockquote data-quote="_CY_" data-source="post: 1609687" data-attributes="member: 7629"><p>FYI... I put information from Huffington Post in the same category as Cato, Fox News. IE very slanted towards what ever agenda they are pushing. </p><p></p><p>Notice my information is based from what little Neutral/believable sources available, like corporate information made public (regulated by FTC), Congressional Budget Office, who's integrity sometimes comes into play as well. But it's HUGELY better than someone like Cato, who's mission is to push their agenda by publishing VERY long articles with little substance. what little data that is provided is reworked to make it almost impossible to verify. </p><p></p><p>for instance Cato putting out a figure of Taxes paid for a select 10 year span, ten years ago, next to taxes paid for a select quarter. this tactic by Cato and it's many brethren all funded by the same folks (Koch has funded a slew of similar think tanks, all putting out the same disinformation), on the same level Huffington Post purposely twisting the facts to suit their agenda. </p><p></p><p>to me extreme right wing fanatics are on the same level as folks from the fanatical left. what alarms me the most is folks whose views falls in these two extremist positions are the one's in charge making our laws. </p><p></p><p>both sides are taking ideological positions that are WRONG for America... this is why Standard & Poors downgraded our AAA rating. Not because America is not capable of paying it's bills... more due to political polarity that currently exist... a real danger exist for the extreme right not compromising with extreme left on agreeing to pay debts incurred. </p><p></p><p>note due to the long cycle between permission to spend VS time to pay. most of the national debt due today was spent by Bush. Just like debt taken on by Obama will be paid for by the next president. which I hope will not be Obama. </p><p></p><p>as for the links below ... not going to do the extensive research I'm doing on the Cato article. flat not willing to spend the time. </p><p></p><p>at first blush the first link is typical Cato style... IE full of horse manure... lots of words with very little hard data and little data that is provided is convoluted so bad. it's not verifiable. </p><p></p><p>the second link is bit better... but is hugely slanted too.... for instance Exxon pays zero federal tax for 2009... yet their tax rate is listed at 47%... pure garbage! CBO puts oil companies effective tax rate at closer to 9% or lower than any other type companies. </p><p></p><p>not even bothering looking at your third link.... sorry your history of what sources you draw from is pure Bullmanure!!!!</p><p></p><p>which brings us to the base problems of sooooo much disinformation out there from ultra right and extreme left. All which are very slickly written, all which are very hard to decipher without spending an enormous amount of research time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="_CY_, post: 1609687, member: 7629"] FYI... I put information from Huffington Post in the same category as Cato, Fox News. IE very slanted towards what ever agenda they are pushing. Notice my information is based from what little Neutral/believable sources available, like corporate information made public (regulated by FTC), Congressional Budget Office, who's integrity sometimes comes into play as well. But it's HUGELY better than someone like Cato, who's mission is to push their agenda by publishing VERY long articles with little substance. what little data that is provided is reworked to make it almost impossible to verify. for instance Cato putting out a figure of Taxes paid for a select 10 year span, ten years ago, next to taxes paid for a select quarter. this tactic by Cato and it's many brethren all funded by the same folks (Koch has funded a slew of similar think tanks, all putting out the same disinformation), on the same level Huffington Post purposely twisting the facts to suit their agenda. to me extreme right wing fanatics are on the same level as folks from the fanatical left. what alarms me the most is folks whose views falls in these two extremist positions are the one's in charge making our laws. both sides are taking ideological positions that are WRONG for America... this is why Standard & Poors downgraded our AAA rating. Not because America is not capable of paying it's bills... more due to political polarity that currently exist... a real danger exist for the extreme right not compromising with extreme left on agreeing to pay debts incurred. note due to the long cycle between permission to spend VS time to pay. most of the national debt due today was spent by Bush. Just like debt taken on by Obama will be paid for by the next president. which I hope will not be Obama. as for the links below ... not going to do the extensive research I'm doing on the Cato article. flat not willing to spend the time. at first blush the first link is typical Cato style... IE full of horse manure... lots of words with very little hard data and little data that is provided is convoluted so bad. it's not verifiable. the second link is bit better... but is hugely slanted too.... for instance Exxon pays zero federal tax for 2009... yet their tax rate is listed at 47%... pure garbage! CBO puts oil companies effective tax rate at closer to 9% or lower than any other type companies. not even bothering looking at your third link.... sorry your history of what sources you draw from is pure Bullmanure!!!! which brings us to the base problems of sooooo much disinformation out there from ultra right and extreme left. All which are very slickly written, all which are very hard to decipher without spending an enormous amount of research time. [/QUOTE]
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