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<blockquote data-quote="sh00ter" data-source="post: 2756758" data-attributes="member: 24531"><p>I understand the concerns of parents who want everyone vaccinated...I do. Here are some thoughts/points I want to share in an effort to reach out to those who vaccinate but are also reasonable and do not have an agenda. Those who it is only about fear.</p><p></p><p>1.) If vaccines work, then why is an unvaccinated kid a threat to yours? IS there really a need for a mandate and encroach on other's freedoms if you make the right decision for your child?</p><p>2.) If your kid is a marrow recipient or other sick child that can still go to school, first ask yourself why sick people are not supposed to have vaccines; that alone shows they have some issues. There are MANY things you must protect against (not just the unvaccinated) and the onus should be on you (not society) to take the necessary precautions. They need to wear a mask, get good nutrition, be kept away from crowds when you can, hand sanitizer, etc..you child being more vulnerable to disease also put others at risk including both vaccinated and unvaccinated kids. If you are a parent of one of these school-aged kids who goes to school and is ill with something like that, then God bless you and your family. If I saw you in public I'd hope you had a mask on them or didn't have them out at all, but I would not send my kid up to get in infection range; I am a responsible parent. </p><p>3.) If you are <u>not</u> the parent of one of these kids and your kid is healthy and vaccinated, then STFU and quit trying to invoke kids like this to support why you want to use the State to force others to get shots.</p><p>4.) If you are the parent of an infant that is too young to receive their vaccines, first ask yourself why if vaccines are safe, that your baby is too young? Why must he/she go without and risk infection at all? Next I'd say that if you are a parent of a baby too young to get them, then you can't expect the world to stop for you...you have to do like everyone and do the best you can to not put the baby at risk. Infants do not go to school; this debate is not about them even though someone also invoked them, but the ones that go to day care are supposed to be segregated by age partly for this very reason. As a matter of fact, I would not want an infant too young to receive MMR to be anywhere near an older baby who recently got the MMR shot because the older baby can shed the virus and infect the infant...then, UNVACCINATED children in the same daycare will get the blame. That is most likely what recently happened in the Chicago daycare measles cases. </p><p>5.) I can and will take every precaution to keep both my child and your safe...I would not be negligent and send my kid to school if I thought he/she would infect yours...that isn't fool proof, but it is responsibility. Between your kid being vaccinated, and my willingness to respect others fears as best I can, do you really have that much to worry about? Only 1% do not vaccinate in Oklahoma...we do not have an epidemic of these diseases or deaths from them in the school system...why force others to vaccinate then?</p><p></p><p>Gov't admits vaccines have side effects:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/09/27/vaccines-are-dangerous-says-the-government.aspx" target="_blank">http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/09/27/vaccines-are-dangerous-says-the-government.aspx</a></p><p></p><p>Dr. Offit says infants could take 100,000 vaccines at once...shall we mandate that for the right to go to school?</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.whale.to/vaccines/offit23.html" target="_blank">http://www.whale.to/vaccines/offit23.html</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sh00ter, post: 2756758, member: 24531"] I understand the concerns of parents who want everyone vaccinated...I do. Here are some thoughts/points I want to share in an effort to reach out to those who vaccinate but are also reasonable and do not have an agenda. Those who it is only about fear. 1.) If vaccines work, then why is an unvaccinated kid a threat to yours? IS there really a need for a mandate and encroach on other's freedoms if you make the right decision for your child? 2.) If your kid is a marrow recipient or other sick child that can still go to school, first ask yourself why sick people are not supposed to have vaccines; that alone shows they have some issues. There are MANY things you must protect against (not just the unvaccinated) and the onus should be on you (not society) to take the necessary precautions. They need to wear a mask, get good nutrition, be kept away from crowds when you can, hand sanitizer, etc..you child being more vulnerable to disease also put others at risk including both vaccinated and unvaccinated kids. If you are a parent of one of these school-aged kids who goes to school and is ill with something like that, then God bless you and your family. If I saw you in public I'd hope you had a mask on them or didn't have them out at all, but I would not send my kid up to get in infection range; I am a responsible parent. 3.) If you are [U]not[/U] the parent of one of these kids and your kid is healthy and vaccinated, then STFU and quit trying to invoke kids like this to support why you want to use the State to force others to get shots. 4.) If you are the parent of an infant that is too young to receive their vaccines, first ask yourself why if vaccines are safe, that your baby is too young? Why must he/she go without and risk infection at all? Next I'd say that if you are a parent of a baby too young to get them, then you can't expect the world to stop for you...you have to do like everyone and do the best you can to not put the baby at risk. Infants do not go to school; this debate is not about them even though someone also invoked them, but the ones that go to day care are supposed to be segregated by age partly for this very reason. As a matter of fact, I would not want an infant too young to receive MMR to be anywhere near an older baby who recently got the MMR shot because the older baby can shed the virus and infect the infant...then, UNVACCINATED children in the same daycare will get the blame. That is most likely what recently happened in the Chicago daycare measles cases. 5.) I can and will take every precaution to keep both my child and your safe...I would not be negligent and send my kid to school if I thought he/she would infect yours...that isn't fool proof, but it is responsibility. Between your kid being vaccinated, and my willingness to respect others fears as best I can, do you really have that much to worry about? Only 1% do not vaccinate in Oklahoma...we do not have an epidemic of these diseases or deaths from them in the school system...why force others to vaccinate then? Gov't admits vaccines have side effects: [url]http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/09/27/vaccines-are-dangerous-says-the-government.aspx[/url] Dr. Offit says infants could take 100,000 vaccines at once...shall we mandate that for the right to go to school? [url]http://www.whale.to/vaccines/offit23.html[/url] [/QUOTE]
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