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<blockquote data-quote="centraloklahoma" data-source="post: 902185" data-attributes="member: 1690"><p>In July 2009 I attended the Glock Armorer’s course for work. </p><p></p><p>It was taught by Mr. Goldsmith and Mr. Keeping. </p><p></p><p>It had been 10 years since I had last attended the course.</p><p></p><p>I specifically inquired about the situation with the Oklahoma City Police Departments problems with their issue Glock 22 pistols as my work currently issues the Glock 22C.</p><p></p><p>Mr. Keeping provided the following information:</p><p></p><p>The latest academy at OKC PD was having issues with their new Glock 22’s. I believe the issue weapon light was a model of Surefire brand and that the ammunition being issued was the 180 grain Speer Gold Dot. I do not know what the training ammunition was.</p><p></p><p>One of the problems they were having was upon ejecting a spent cartridge the magazines would allow a new round to pop free just and as the slide went forward it stripped off the next live round ending in two rounds competing to get into the same chamber, resulting in a malfunction.</p><p></p><p>One observed correction for the problem was changing the ammunition from 180 grain to either 165 or 155 grain.</p><p></p><p>Other suggested solutions were to change the recoil spring every 5,000 rounds.</p><p></p><p>Mr. Keeping advised that the field representatives had just been provided a new improved model of the Glock 22 magazine for testing, but he had not yet used it. </p><p></p><p>He did not provide anyone in the class access to the magazine nor did he elaborate on any changes in its design.</p><p></p><p>I was told that after an extensive evaluation and review that OKC PD decided to remove the 40 cal Glocks from their approval list.</p><p></p><p>Glock advised they were replacing OKC PD’s Glock 22’s with the Glock 17, Glock 21, and Glock 21SF, with the majority being the Glock 21SF.</p><p></p><p>I have carried three versions of the Glock in the last 13 years. These have been the Glock 17, 19, and 22C. I have been fortunate to not have had any issues. </p><p></p><p>In the past six years I have carried a Glock 22C with either one of the following lights; Streamlight M3 Streamlight TRL-1, and Insight XTI Procyon.</p><p></p><p>Duty and qualification ammunition used has been Speer Gold Dot 155 or 165 grain. Training ammunition has been Speer 155 or 165 FMJ.</p><p></p><p>I conservatively estimate that I have fired an average of 300-400 rounds a month without any issues. </p><p></p><p>The agency I work for and the adjacent one both issue the Glock 22C, fielding a combined number in excess of 200 weapons. </p><p></p><p>I have not heard of any issues locally with the Glock 22C as compared to what has been reported with the Glock 22.</p><p></p><p>CP</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="centraloklahoma, post: 902185, member: 1690"] In July 2009 I attended the Glock Armorer’s course for work. It was taught by Mr. Goldsmith and Mr. Keeping. It had been 10 years since I had last attended the course. I specifically inquired about the situation with the Oklahoma City Police Departments problems with their issue Glock 22 pistols as my work currently issues the Glock 22C. Mr. Keeping provided the following information: The latest academy at OKC PD was having issues with their new Glock 22’s. I believe the issue weapon light was a model of Surefire brand and that the ammunition being issued was the 180 grain Speer Gold Dot. I do not know what the training ammunition was. One of the problems they were having was upon ejecting a spent cartridge the magazines would allow a new round to pop free just and as the slide went forward it stripped off the next live round ending in two rounds competing to get into the same chamber, resulting in a malfunction. One observed correction for the problem was changing the ammunition from 180 grain to either 165 or 155 grain. Other suggested solutions were to change the recoil spring every 5,000 rounds. Mr. Keeping advised that the field representatives had just been provided a new improved model of the Glock 22 magazine for testing, but he had not yet used it. He did not provide anyone in the class access to the magazine nor did he elaborate on any changes in its design. I was told that after an extensive evaluation and review that OKC PD decided to remove the 40 cal Glocks from their approval list. Glock advised they were replacing OKC PD’s Glock 22’s with the Glock 17, Glock 21, and Glock 21SF, with the majority being the Glock 21SF. I have carried three versions of the Glock in the last 13 years. These have been the Glock 17, 19, and 22C. I have been fortunate to not have had any issues. In the past six years I have carried a Glock 22C with either one of the following lights; Streamlight M3 Streamlight TRL-1, and Insight XTI Procyon. Duty and qualification ammunition used has been Speer Gold Dot 155 or 165 grain. Training ammunition has been Speer 155 or 165 FMJ. I conservatively estimate that I have fired an average of 300-400 rounds a month without any issues. The agency I work for and the adjacent one both issue the Glock 22C, fielding a combined number in excess of 200 weapons. I have not heard of any issues locally with the Glock 22C as compared to what has been reported with the Glock 22. CP [/QUOTE]
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