The only way somebody would know you were carrying is if you brandish. . .else it is concealed. Hence the catch-22.
The only way somebody would know you were carrying is if you brandish. . .else it is concealed. Hence the catch-22.
Accidental exposure does not meet the definition of "brandish",
"The Oklahoma law states that the gun must be completely concealed from view and detection, meaning even accidental exposure of the weapon is a crime."
http://www.okhouse.gov/okhousemedia/ShowStory.aspx?MediaNewsID=4103
I've carried there just about every year for the last decade. I won't be confronted by the police because I carry properly...and if for some strange reason I did have contact with the police, I wouldn't use the "dialogue from this thread" as my defense. I would use the law as it is written.
It's actually pretty clear if you read it. And it only requires answering one question: Has a government entity designated the place a park or fairground? The answer is yes...therefore it cannot be prohibited from lawful carry and everything else is moot, including the "position" of OSF Inc.'s lawers.
Well, I answered my own question by going to the fair today. No frisking, wanding or hassles carrying. Did see a carny getting cuffed at his venue by OKCPD about 8:30 this evening. Not sure why, doubt he was brandishing or refusing to leave 
The name of the crime isn't remotely relevant. The fact that it is a crime is the relevant part.
/sigh
Once again...
Brandishing and accidental exposure are two separate types of crimes with two separate types of penalties.
Brandishing and accidental exposure are two separate types of crimes with two separate types of penalties.
Accidental exposure is classified as a misdemeanor? Felony? Or...administrative violation?
Edited to add: I'm looking for chapter and verse on the accidental exposure. I can't seem to locate it?
Also, FWIW, "brandish" returns ONE result when searching the criminal code, under section 1362, Crimes against the Public Peace. No actual definition of "brandishing" as a separate crime. There's always felony pointing, though.
Edited to add: I'm looking for chapter and verse on the accidental exposure. I can't seem to locate it?
Also, FWIW, "brandish" returns ONE result when searching the criminal code, under section 1362, Crimes against the Public Peace. No actual definition of "brandishing" as a separate crime. There's always felony pointing, though.
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