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<blockquote data-quote="_CY_" data-source="post: 2529402" data-attributes="member: 7629"><p>what a turd of a video! that asshat goes on for a good 10 minutes before we find out he's probably paid by comcast to spout garbage that charging extra for uninterrupted access for content providers is good for the consumer.</p><p></p><p>sorry all I could stand is 10 minutes worth of this garbage ... for the first 10 minutes that asshat had me convinced he was in favor of consumers .. instead of probably a paid shill for comcast/TWC </p><p></p><p>call it what you want .. charging consumers three times for broadband performance one is already paying for is flat wrong. </p><p></p><p>fact is ISP delivering broadband access has become a utility much like electricity, natural gas and water/sewer. natural utilities due to construction limitations like duplicate telephone poles needed to make final mile connections for fiber are controlled by local government. note during this latest economic slow down .. government controlled utilities are the only ones with rates that's gone up in increments vs jumping up by 2x and 3x prices overnight like unregulated Oil prices and recent propane prices jumped by 3x or more last winter. </p><p></p><p>wireless ISP or WISP are not competition to fiber/copper due to technical and/or financial difficulties. shop around a bit .. WISP prices will be waaay higher than cable/fiber/copper. then factor in lag times ... this is why WISP only thrive where no other final mile connections are available. </p><p></p><p>so in any major metro area .. battle lines have already long been decided. note WISP are operating in free wireless spectrums .. vs giants like AT&T has purchased rights to higher closed ghz spectrum. </p><p></p><p>in major metro areas with few exceptions .. you've either have cable and/or At&t (telephone co) making final mile connect to your home. ALL other so called competition has go thru final mile connections. now if WISP overcomes technical/financial limitations for broadband delivery .. that could change. as it stands WISP either costs too much and/or has too high lag times to be competitive with fiber/copper. </p><p></p><p>in other world a monopoly and/or oligopoly exist in almost ALL markets for broadband access. this is why FCC should reclassify all ISP as common carriers. all this means is ISP will not be able to charge the consumer 3X for broadband service performance they are already paying for. </p><p></p><p>1. consumer pays for broadband at XX MB per sec speed performance guarantees</p><p>2. consumer is getting ready to pay extra to premium content providers as they pass on costs. </p><p>3. consumer is getting ready to pay extra to prevent slowdown on data that needs highest QOS (quality of service) like VOIP and streaming video.</p><p></p><p>note stream video only requires about 150kb/sec to prevent video from stopping to buffer. the slowest broadband is about 1.5mb/sec .. note I'm not referring to folks that stream 24x7 .. those folks are already limited by caps. this is about the consumer that only uses modest amount of bandwidth per month, getting ready to be charged 3x for performance they are already paying for.</p><p></p><p>mark my words .. if this load of crap goes comcast/TWC's way with net neutrality killed off ... after a honeymoon period of course ... look to see your broadband access costs to go up by 2x or 3x!!!! or more...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="_CY_, post: 2529402, member: 7629"] what a turd of a video! that asshat goes on for a good 10 minutes before we find out he's probably paid by comcast to spout garbage that charging extra for uninterrupted access for content providers is good for the consumer. sorry all I could stand is 10 minutes worth of this garbage ... for the first 10 minutes that asshat had me convinced he was in favor of consumers .. instead of probably a paid shill for comcast/TWC call it what you want .. charging consumers three times for broadband performance one is already paying for is flat wrong. fact is ISP delivering broadband access has become a utility much like electricity, natural gas and water/sewer. natural utilities due to construction limitations like duplicate telephone poles needed to make final mile connections for fiber are controlled by local government. note during this latest economic slow down .. government controlled utilities are the only ones with rates that's gone up in increments vs jumping up by 2x and 3x prices overnight like unregulated Oil prices and recent propane prices jumped by 3x or more last winter. wireless ISP or WISP are not competition to fiber/copper due to technical and/or financial difficulties. shop around a bit .. WISP prices will be waaay higher than cable/fiber/copper. then factor in lag times ... this is why WISP only thrive where no other final mile connections are available. so in any major metro area .. battle lines have already long been decided. note WISP are operating in free wireless spectrums .. vs giants like AT&T has purchased rights to higher closed ghz spectrum. in major metro areas with few exceptions .. you've either have cable and/or At&t (telephone co) making final mile connect to your home. ALL other so called competition has go thru final mile connections. now if WISP overcomes technical/financial limitations for broadband delivery .. that could change. as it stands WISP either costs too much and/or has too high lag times to be competitive with fiber/copper. in other world a monopoly and/or oligopoly exist in almost ALL markets for broadband access. this is why FCC should reclassify all ISP as common carriers. all this means is ISP will not be able to charge the consumer 3X for broadband service performance they are already paying for. 1. consumer pays for broadband at XX MB per sec speed performance guarantees 2. consumer is getting ready to pay extra to premium content providers as they pass on costs. 3. consumer is getting ready to pay extra to prevent slowdown on data that needs highest QOS (quality of service) like VOIP and streaming video. note stream video only requires about 150kb/sec to prevent video from stopping to buffer. the slowest broadband is about 1.5mb/sec .. note I'm not referring to folks that stream 24x7 .. those folks are already limited by caps. this is about the consumer that only uses modest amount of bandwidth per month, getting ready to be charged 3x for performance they are already paying for. mark my words .. if this load of crap goes comcast/TWC's way with net neutrality killed off ... after a honeymoon period of course ... look to see your broadband access costs to go up by 2x or 3x!!!! or more... [/QUOTE]
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