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<blockquote data-quote="Mike_60" data-source="post: 2693370" data-attributes="member: 16957"><p>And that is why AT&T spends between 13 to 18 billion a year on capitol spending just upgrading the network. If you look, that is about 10% of the company’s market cap, which is aggressive investment in my mind. IP DSL has been being installed in wire centers for ~5 years or so. Just a guess, I would say the ATM DSL customer base is somewhere between half to two thirds converted over to IP DSL already &#8211; and they run on copper &#8211; with no plans to change. That doesn’t count the FFTN or FTTP Uverse customers which are already IP.</p><p></p><p>FTTP has been the ONLY build option for new residential areas for a couple years now. I would personally love to have that as an option for myself. The only places where fiber is being overlaid in copper neighborhoods are in a few cities in Texas and Kansas, and they are being offered 1GIG service in those areas. Will fiber services be offered in outstate rural areas? Probably not anytime soon. More than likely they are going to be offered a wireless solution that will carry a full range of services as the traditional offering are turned down. </p><p></p><p>So yes, technically copper outside the reach of IP DSL will probably go away. In the future/now, if you’re within the range of IP DSL (on copper) that will be your service option, if not, it’ll probably be wireless. BTW, DSL available speeds are determined by a number of factors number one being the distance to the DSLAM. The farther away you are the slower things get. As a general rule, IP DSL has a farther reach and can attain faster speeds to equal distances as ATM DSL. Both can run considerably faster than 9mb BTW. Plus they can do some voodoo things such as pair bonding to get it out a little further. But the condition of the cable plant becomes a huge factor in determining how well it’ll work. For your info, FTTP isn't limited the way copper services are. Also, a wireless solution is no slouch. I work entirely on wireless with a 30Gig data plan and it works very well for me. Just a guess on my part, I believe paid data caps with eventually go away as new revenue streams open up like paid content. </p><p></p><p>Your reliability example is apples to oranges. There are numerous reasons why your buddy’s service could have been out while yours was on. The first that comes to my mind is that your service is probably buried and at least a portion of his was probably aerial. Ice storms are kind of rough on aerial cables and that’s why buried is the preferred solution. Another one is that when the power company was replacing the poles that were downed they were cutting cables while doing so &#8211; it happens all the time. I’ve seen it happen where there were multiple cuts, because the utility that was replacing a string of broken poles was cutting buried cables at every pole replaced.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mike_60, post: 2693370, member: 16957"] And that is why AT&T spends between 13 to 18 billion a year on capitol spending just upgrading the network. If you look, that is about 10% of the company’s market cap, which is aggressive investment in my mind. IP DSL has been being installed in wire centers for ~5 years or so. Just a guess, I would say the ATM DSL customer base is somewhere between half to two thirds converted over to IP DSL already – and they run on copper – with no plans to change. That doesn’t count the FFTN or FTTP Uverse customers which are already IP. FTTP has been the ONLY build option for new residential areas for a couple years now. I would personally love to have that as an option for myself. The only places where fiber is being overlaid in copper neighborhoods are in a few cities in Texas and Kansas, and they are being offered 1GIG service in those areas. Will fiber services be offered in outstate rural areas? Probably not anytime soon. More than likely they are going to be offered a wireless solution that will carry a full range of services as the traditional offering are turned down. So yes, technically copper outside the reach of IP DSL will probably go away. In the future/now, if you’re within the range of IP DSL (on copper) that will be your service option, if not, it’ll probably be wireless. BTW, DSL available speeds are determined by a number of factors number one being the distance to the DSLAM. The farther away you are the slower things get. As a general rule, IP DSL has a farther reach and can attain faster speeds to equal distances as ATM DSL. Both can run considerably faster than 9mb BTW. Plus they can do some voodoo things such as pair bonding to get it out a little further. But the condition of the cable plant becomes a huge factor in determining how well it’ll work. For your info, FTTP isn't limited the way copper services are. Also, a wireless solution is no slouch. I work entirely on wireless with a 30Gig data plan and it works very well for me. Just a guess on my part, I believe paid data caps with eventually go away as new revenue streams open up like paid content. Your reliability example is apples to oranges. There are numerous reasons why your buddy’s service could have been out while yours was on. The first that comes to my mind is that your service is probably buried and at least a portion of his was probably aerial. Ice storms are kind of rough on aerial cables and that’s why buried is the preferred solution. Another one is that when the power company was replacing the poles that were downed they were cutting cables while doing so – it happens all the time. I’ve seen it happen where there were multiple cuts, because the utility that was replacing a string of broken poles was cutting buried cables at every pole replaced. [/QUOTE]
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