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<blockquote data-quote="53convert" data-source="post: 1009072" data-attributes="member: 10344"><p>Oh boy, where to begin.</p><p>First off I have carried a weapon for some form of govt entity since I was 18, I am now 56. As a retired copper I can carry or not as I so choose. A lot of the time I choose not to. Simply put the darn things can be a nuisance. Now that being said that doesn't mean one isnt in my car or truck while traveling.</p><p></p><p>When the CCW law was first proposed, as a Chief I supported the concept and was ridiculed by other chiefs and PD higher ups at the time. Frankly my reasoning was simple, those who wanted the legal permission to carry would go through all the laws, hoops and hurdles necessary to do this. They would get the training, they would get the back ground check, they would get all the requirements out of the way.</p><p></p><p>Those persons would not be a problem for Law Enforcement. Frankly speaking that type of mind set, to follow the law even if annoying has never been a problem for LE.</p><p></p><p>The mokes who would break the law had already been doing so and would continue to do so regardless of ANY law on the book. </p><p></p><p>That being said, I am old school and seeing a a strapped down hog leg in plain view would be slightly troubling to me personally, but, falling back to my original premise, I would have to accept that those who were open carry, as with those doing concealed would still be the law abiding ones.</p><p></p><p>What frankly I find disturbing , the elephant in the tent so to speak, that no one is ever willing to consider, discuss debate and bring on at the national level is WHY do a large portion of our citizens feel COMPELLED to carry.?</p><p></p><p>Its because 50 plus year of permissive anything goes narcissist society has created a criminal element in this country beyond anything we have ever seen, and coupled with a lack of Community resolve to deal with it and a judicial level, ie, lock em up, execute em, bury em and the acceptance that there are no longer communal morales and values, just individual is what has gotten us to this point.</p><p></p><p>Frankly our grandfathers and great grand fathers had the better idea. You got a thug in town, the towns people dealt with that one, not the courts, not the community outreach programs, not the social workers,........ah, well.... flame away now...............Im old school, and dont like the cops looking like security guards.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="53convert, post: 1009072, member: 10344"] Oh boy, where to begin. First off I have carried a weapon for some form of govt entity since I was 18, I am now 56. As a retired copper I can carry or not as I so choose. A lot of the time I choose not to. Simply put the darn things can be a nuisance. Now that being said that doesn't mean one isnt in my car or truck while traveling. When the CCW law was first proposed, as a Chief I supported the concept and was ridiculed by other chiefs and PD higher ups at the time. Frankly my reasoning was simple, those who wanted the legal permission to carry would go through all the laws, hoops and hurdles necessary to do this. They would get the training, they would get the back ground check, they would get all the requirements out of the way. Those persons would not be a problem for Law Enforcement. Frankly speaking that type of mind set, to follow the law even if annoying has never been a problem for LE. The mokes who would break the law had already been doing so and would continue to do so regardless of ANY law on the book. That being said, I am old school and seeing a a strapped down hog leg in plain view would be slightly troubling to me personally, but, falling back to my original premise, I would have to accept that those who were open carry, as with those doing concealed would still be the law abiding ones. What frankly I find disturbing , the elephant in the tent so to speak, that no one is ever willing to consider, discuss debate and bring on at the national level is WHY do a large portion of our citizens feel COMPELLED to carry.? Its because 50 plus year of permissive anything goes narcissist society has created a criminal element in this country beyond anything we have ever seen, and coupled with a lack of Community resolve to deal with it and a judicial level, ie, lock em up, execute em, bury em and the acceptance that there are no longer communal morales and values, just individual is what has gotten us to this point. Frankly our grandfathers and great grand fathers had the better idea. You got a thug in town, the towns people dealt with that one, not the courts, not the community outreach programs, not the social workers,........ah, well.... flame away now...............Im old school, and dont like the cops looking like security guards. [/QUOTE]
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