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<blockquote data-quote="DBW" data-source="post: 365872" data-attributes="member: 2971"><p>The Federalist were a group of elites that believed that government was the answer to all of our problems. They pushed for ditching the Articles of Confederation and the ratification of the Constitution. The AoC worked pretty well for the most part except when it came to foreign concerns. In my opinion of late the Constitution reduced the freedom of Americans while attempting to dismantle the original power of the individual states.</p><p></p><p>Had it not been for the Anti-Federalist, there would be no Bill of Rights. They advocated that all people held natural rights that no government could take away regardless of whatever law was legislated and forced upon the people. The Anti-Federalist were the group that envisioned a truly free people. </p><p></p><p>No doubt that there are intelligent people on this forum. I don't happen to be one of those as I'm dumb as dirt. I do believe that many of the "intelligent" members of this forum hold the same view as the early Federalist which I view as a force intent on actually reducing the freedom of the people to a level that government can manage and find acceptable. These people tend to defend the 2nd Amendment at all cost... while completely ignoring that there are nine other Bill of Rights that are equally important if not more so in limiting the abuse by the central government on the natural rights of people. </p><p></p><p>I rarely see these 2A advocates challenging the government for violating the 9th and 10th Amendments for instance. Upholding the 10A would certainly resolve many concerns we have with what the central government is allowed to do. But it's been ignored pretty much from the beginning and the result is that the US is not a nation comprised of individual sovereign states but a nation comprised of states indebted to obeying the will and mandates of the central government. The states essentially are useless entities which is what the Federalist wanted.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DBW, post: 365872, member: 2971"] The Federalist were a group of elites that believed that government was the answer to all of our problems. They pushed for ditching the Articles of Confederation and the ratification of the Constitution. The AoC worked pretty well for the most part except when it came to foreign concerns. In my opinion of late the Constitution reduced the freedom of Americans while attempting to dismantle the original power of the individual states. Had it not been for the Anti-Federalist, there would be no Bill of Rights. They advocated that all people held natural rights that no government could take away regardless of whatever law was legislated and forced upon the people. The Anti-Federalist were the group that envisioned a truly free people. No doubt that there are intelligent people on this forum. I don't happen to be one of those as I'm dumb as dirt. I do believe that many of the "intelligent" members of this forum hold the same view as the early Federalist which I view as a force intent on actually reducing the freedom of the people to a level that government can manage and find acceptable. These people tend to defend the 2nd Amendment at all cost... while completely ignoring that there are nine other Bill of Rights that are equally important if not more so in limiting the abuse by the central government on the natural rights of people. I rarely see these 2A advocates challenging the government for violating the 9th and 10th Amendments for instance. Upholding the 10A would certainly resolve many concerns we have with what the central government is allowed to do. But it's been ignored pretty much from the beginning and the result is that the US is not a nation comprised of individual sovereign states but a nation comprised of states indebted to obeying the will and mandates of the central government. The states essentially are useless entities which is what the Federalist wanted. [/QUOTE]
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