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<blockquote data-quote="mausermike" data-source="post: 366887" data-attributes="member: 1226"><p>Dhome-</p><p>That a few did so wasnt my question to Skeptic. It was past knowin a few diners what are the stats of Virginia's open carry population??? Would seem to me the whole 'we all want to carry if not regulated' argument goes down in flames. History has our gun tottin past as alot less hollywood B movie n alot more there is a musket in the house...</p><p></p><p>Now just outta curiosity, since ya brought it up, did ya open carry in Alexandria? how about downtown Virginia Beach??? When I go down in the creekbottom I 'open carry' alot. But not coz I think I must defend my personal liberty.</p><p></p><p>I'm just not sure there ever was a time when a majority of Americans thought it was an individual responsibility to defend liberty. I think modern folks look back with an altered view. As much as conservatives of this age hate to hear it.... it took a village. Men of every circumstance drillin on the village green, 'captains' voted on. Barn raisins n ranches combinin to get beef to the railhead. Bucket Brigades n nightwatch for fires.</p><p></p><p>But then agin contemporary stories about who was in the military wasnt flatterin. The average man didnt see his role as a few years in national service to be a good citizen. many wealthier citizen bought replacements even durin the Civil War. Seems once a man got a certain amount of wealth the concept of maintainin life n pursuit of happiness overrode defense of liberty.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps this is our Foundin Father's mistake, to not enshrine duty to country. But perhaps not, Germany had a strong sense of duty to the Fatherland...</p><p></p><p>My read on early American life wasnt I the People- it was WE the people. Once upon a time WE banded together. Now we seem more concerned with personal freedoms n pursuits of happiness but I dunt blame some welfare state. More like what was once a feelin of exemption for the 'privlieged' class now has trickled down to the traditional service class.</p><p></p><p>There are a few here on this website who most here see as patriotic americans, good citizens, good christians if that so floats yur boat.</p><p></p><p>But they never gave national service one moment of thought. Might be their folks never taught em about duty to country. Maybe their folks figured there are plenty others to go fight for our national interest. But they are not welfare state people.</p><p></p><p>Dunno myself, I think we americans are very selfish and generous, very petty n quite noble, very vicious n yet do such acts of charity to shame the Pope.</p><p></p><p>But what has changed is we dunt really need the village anymore. We dunt see ourselves as part of a team. I dunt need my neighbors to raise a barn, my wife n i drive our own cattle to market. There are guys here who happily invest on the roller coasterin stock market-</p><p></p><p> we dunt ask is it good for the country but whats it to me??!!</p><p></p><p>Perhaps we always did, just now we use alotta vasaline on the collective lens when lookin into the past...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mausermike, post: 366887, member: 1226"] Dhome- That a few did so wasnt my question to Skeptic. It was past knowin a few diners what are the stats of Virginia's open carry population??? Would seem to me the whole 'we all want to carry if not regulated' argument goes down in flames. History has our gun tottin past as alot less hollywood B movie n alot more there is a musket in the house... Now just outta curiosity, since ya brought it up, did ya open carry in Alexandria? how about downtown Virginia Beach??? When I go down in the creekbottom I 'open carry' alot. But not coz I think I must defend my personal liberty. I'm just not sure there ever was a time when a majority of Americans thought it was an individual responsibility to defend liberty. I think modern folks look back with an altered view. As much as conservatives of this age hate to hear it.... it took a village. Men of every circumstance drillin on the village green, 'captains' voted on. Barn raisins n ranches combinin to get beef to the railhead. Bucket Brigades n nightwatch for fires. But then agin contemporary stories about who was in the military wasnt flatterin. The average man didnt see his role as a few years in national service to be a good citizen. many wealthier citizen bought replacements even durin the Civil War. Seems once a man got a certain amount of wealth the concept of maintainin life n pursuit of happiness overrode defense of liberty. Perhaps this is our Foundin Father's mistake, to not enshrine duty to country. But perhaps not, Germany had a strong sense of duty to the Fatherland... My read on early American life wasnt I the People- it was WE the people. Once upon a time WE banded together. Now we seem more concerned with personal freedoms n pursuits of happiness but I dunt blame some welfare state. More like what was once a feelin of exemption for the 'privlieged' class now has trickled down to the traditional service class. There are a few here on this website who most here see as patriotic americans, good citizens, good christians if that so floats yur boat. But they never gave national service one moment of thought. Might be their folks never taught em about duty to country. Maybe their folks figured there are plenty others to go fight for our national interest. But they are not welfare state people. Dunno myself, I think we americans are very selfish and generous, very petty n quite noble, very vicious n yet do such acts of charity to shame the Pope. But what has changed is we dunt really need the village anymore. We dunt see ourselves as part of a team. I dunt need my neighbors to raise a barn, my wife n i drive our own cattle to market. There are guys here who happily invest on the roller coasterin stock market- we dunt ask is it good for the country but whats it to me??!! Perhaps we always did, just now we use alotta vasaline on the collective lens when lookin into the past... [/QUOTE]
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