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<blockquote data-quote="Ace_on_the_Turn" data-source="post: 2712792" data-attributes="member: 27417"><p>I would ask how you could call anyone an apologist, but I've seen enough of your postings to know. </p><p></p><p>O'Reilly claimed in his book that "Argentine soldiers fired into the crowd with "real bullets" and slaughtered "many" civilians. It. Never. Happened.</p><p>Argentine historian Federico G. Lorenz, an author who has written extensively on the Falklands/Malvinas war said, "As far as I know, there were no people killed at the protests after the news of the Argentine surrendering arrived to [Buenos Aires]. There were incidents at May Square and people slightly injured due to gasses and anti riot munition, but not dead people. Press from June 15, 1982, reports about 5 buses burnt many detainees and injured people. One of the photographs shows precisely a wounded lying surrounded by people."</p><p></p><p>O'Reilly has told a fanciful tale about saving a camera man. </p><p>"Mr. Engberg, the former CBS News correspondent, also strongly disputed Mr. OReillys claim that he had rescued an injured cameraman while being chased by the Argentine army. Nobody reported a cameraman being shot or injured, he said. His account was supported by a senior member of the CBS News management team, with close knowledge of the events that night, who said that nobody was reported injured, and no request for medical attention was made to CBS Newss local medical team."</p><p></p><p>O'Reilly said in his book, "I've reported on the ground in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands. At a Washington panel discussion he said, "'I've covered wars, okay? I've been there. The Falklands, Northern Ireland, the Middle East. I've almost been killed three times, okay.'"</p><p>He was 1200 miles from the Falklands during the war. </p><p></p><p>O'Rielly said in a column, "Having survived a combat situation in Argentina during the Falklands war, I know that life-and-death decisions are made in a flash."</p><p>There was no "combat" in Argentina.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now that it's been shown that both have told similar lies, it's interesting to see how their networks treat them. In the Brian Williams case, he was suspended by NBC for 6 months and it's not clear if he will be allowed back on the air. In Bill O'Reilly's case, Fox News immediately made it clear there would be no punishment forthcoming. Why such differing reactions? Two major reasons. First is simply money. Bill O'Reilly is very, very important to Fox News' bottom line. His show is, by far and away, Fox News' highest rated program and accounts for a large portion of Fox News' income. The income from NBC Nightly News is hardly a rounding error for NBC.</p><p></p><p>The second reason is that Brian Williams is held to a higher standard. Brian Williams had the reputation of being trustworthy. And, as Robyn Pennacchia so elegantly said it, " Bill O'Reilly's lies are the equivalent of your grandpa telling you he walked ten miles to school everyday, uphill both ways and in four feet of snow." No one expects O'Reilly to be trustworthy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ace_on_the_Turn, post: 2712792, member: 27417"] I would ask how you could call anyone an apologist, but I've seen enough of your postings to know. O'Reilly claimed in his book that "Argentine soldiers fired into the crowd with "real bullets" and slaughtered "many" civilians. It. Never. Happened. Argentine historian Federico G. Lorenz, an author who has written extensively on the Falklands/Malvinas war said, "As far as I know, there were no people killed at the protests after the news of the Argentine surrendering arrived to [Buenos Aires]. There were incidents at May Square and people slightly injured due to gasses and anti riot munition, but not dead people. Press from June 15, 1982, reports about 5 buses burnt many detainees and injured people. One of the photographs shows precisely a wounded lying surrounded by people." O'Reilly has told a fanciful tale about saving a camera man. "Mr. Engberg, the former CBS News correspondent, also strongly disputed Mr. OReillys claim that he had rescued an injured cameraman while being chased by the Argentine army. Nobody reported a cameraman being shot or injured, he said. His account was supported by a senior member of the CBS News management team, with close knowledge of the events that night, who said that nobody was reported injured, and no request for medical attention was made to CBS Newss local medical team." O'Reilly said in his book, "I've reported on the ground in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands. At a Washington panel discussion he said, "'I've covered wars, okay? I've been there. The Falklands, Northern Ireland, the Middle East. I've almost been killed three times, okay.'" He was 1200 miles from the Falklands during the war. O'Rielly said in a column, "Having survived a combat situation in Argentina during the Falklands war, I know that life-and-death decisions are made in a flash." There was no "combat" in Argentina. Now that it's been shown that both have told similar lies, it's interesting to see how their networks treat them. In the Brian Williams case, he was suspended by NBC for 6 months and it's not clear if he will be allowed back on the air. In Bill O'Reilly's case, Fox News immediately made it clear there would be no punishment forthcoming. Why such differing reactions? Two major reasons. First is simply money. Bill O'Reilly is very, very important to Fox News' bottom line. His show is, by far and away, Fox News' highest rated program and accounts for a large portion of Fox News' income. The income from NBC Nightly News is hardly a rounding error for NBC. The second reason is that Brian Williams is held to a higher standard. Brian Williams had the reputation of being trustworthy. And, as Robyn Pennacchia so elegantly said it, " Bill O'Reilly's lies are the equivalent of your grandpa telling you he walked ten miles to school everyday, uphill both ways and in four feet of snow." No one expects O'Reilly to be trustworthy. [/QUOTE]
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