OSA Single payer apologists.... get in here...

[JD8]

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/0...s-cancels-50000-surgeries-amid-hospital-chaos

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/world/europe/uk-national-health-service.html

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/s...-hospitals-face-winter-crisis/article/2644827

But it would apparently be nothing like the VA here.....

 

[C_Hallbert]

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/0...s-cancels-50000-surgeries-amid-hospital-chaos

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/world/europe/uk-national-health-service.html

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/s...-hospitals-face-winter-crisis/article/2644827

But it would apparently be nothing like the VA here.....

Bernie Sanders has been touting the benefits of Socialized Medicine and presenting what I’m sure are drunk, coerced or hypnotized Canadians to endorse the FANTASTIC benefits of it and the European Healthcare Model for a couple of years.


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[cjjtulsa]

What I don't understand about these types of things is that there is only one major place you can live and not be subjected to "single payer" healthcare, but dozens of places you can live that have it; if you want it so bad - go to one of those places. Let the rest of us who don't want it, keep the option of not having it.

 

[Glocktogo]

What I don't understand about these types of things is that there is only one major place you can live and not be subjected to "single payer" healthcare, but dozens of places you can live that have it; if you want it so bad - go to one of those places. Let the rest of us who don't want it, keep the option of not having it.

Because the type of person that wants .gov controlled HC, would also prefer placing their burden on everyone else, rather than accepting the burden of relocating to get what they want.

 

[Shadowrider]

I'm not going to go into it right now but anyone wanting single payer HC has either not a freaking clue what they are asking for or are just text book stupid.

 

[Frederick]

What I don't understand about these types of things is that there is only one major place you can live and not be subjected to "single payer" healthcare, but dozens of places you can live that have it; if you want it so bad - go to one of those places. Let the rest of us who don't want it, keep the option of not having it.

Well, it's not as simple as packing up and leaving, you know, and abandoning everything you've known, your family and your country, just on the principle of wanting single-payer healthcare.

I tend to agree that we should get rid of and abolish the VA.

 

[dennishoddy]

I've traveled around some of the world as a part of work. Most places in europe have single payer insurance that the .gov pays for.
I've asked them about it. What they say is that if you need a heart transplant, you can get one at little to no cost, but it will be by the medical staff that can't support a private practice, meaning they are the bottom of the barrel. Just like any job at Micky D's for example, there are folks that can turn out a good soy based burger patty and there are those that burn them most of the time. Some can do it and some can't.
According to the folks I talked to, you have the socialist medicine yet they still have doctors in private practice that the middle income and above use out of their pockets to not attend the social medicine clinics.
My VA clinic Doctor has told me that if I have a heart issue, he will not send me to xxxx va hospital for treatment, but if I have an orthopedic issue, he will send me to xxx VA hospital because as we have recently found out, the VA (social medicine, single payer) has allowed Doctors that have had their licenses revoked in states because of whatever reason to work for the VA.
Now, tie that back into what I stated about the European single payer, then tie that back into why heads of state and rich folks from other countries come to the US for medical treatment if it a serious issue.
Single payer is not the solution, but since Obama started this dirty road, our current congress is continuing the process. We will be at single payer as long as the .gov is involved in it and not the free market system.

 

[tRidiot]

I've worked in both... both have their ups and downs, their good and bad. Neither system is perfect, and guess what? There ISN'T a perfect system. Anywhere. Nor will there be.

But... what do I know, I'm one of the bad guys, so I'm told.

 

[dennishoddy]

I've worked in both... both have their ups and downs, their good and bad. Neither system is perfect, and guess what? There ISN'T a perfect system. Anywhere. Nor will there be.
.

Your exactly correct saying there isn't a perfect system.
In your opinion working both systems, what is the solution in your opinion? I've been treated by both, so I have my opinion related to personal experience.

 

[tRidiot]

Oh God, there's not enough bandwidth on this board. lol

There's no simple solution, either. No band-aid, no one-size-fits-all. I won't begin to tell you I have the answers.


All I know is, I can't wait to GTFO.