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<blockquote data-quote="SMS" data-source="post: 1788051" data-attributes="member: 42"><p>Interesting note relative to the thread. Big Green has issued official policy forbidding the use of any magazines other than the authorized NSNs (Pmags do not have one of the authorized NSNs). It's not quality driven in regards to Pmags...but it is, at least partially, as a result of other sub standard after market mags being used. Another aspect is Big Green's politics...TACOM didn't get funding to test the mag, TACOM didn't approve the mag, you can't use the mag!</p><p></p><p>TACOM LCMC MI 12-021 M4-M16 Improved Magazine and the Use of Commercial Magazines</p><p>Originator: /C=US/O=U.S.</p><p>GOVERNMENT/OU=DOD/OU=ARMY/OU=ORGANIZATIONS/L=CONUS/L=WARREN</p><p>MI/OU=TACOM/OU=TACOM SAFETYOFUSE(UC)</p><p>DTG: 301307Z Apr 12</p><p>Precedence: PRIORITY</p><p>DAC: General</p><p></p><p>//UNCLASSIFIED//</p><p>Subject: Maintenance Information (MI) Message, TACOM Life Cycle Management</p><p>Command, (TACOM LCMC) Control No. MI: 12-039, M4/M16 Improved Magazine NSN</p><p>1005-01-561-7200, Part Number: 13021312, Cage Code: 19200, Old Magazine NSN</p><p>1005-00-921-5004, Part Number: 2411362962382, Cage Code: 13629, and the use</p><p>of commercial magazines. End Items: M16A2 NSN 1005-01-128-9936, M16A3 NSN</p><p>1005-01-357-5112, M16A4 NSN 1005-01-383-2872, M4 NSN 1005-01-231-0973, and</p><p>M4A1 NSN 1005-01-382-0953.</p><p></p><p>1. Distribution:</p><p>a. This is a Maintenance Information (MI) Message. Commanders/Directors</p><p>of Army Commands (ACOM)/Army Service Component Commands (ASCC)/Direct</p><p>Reporting Units (DRU), Army National Guard (ARNG), US Army Reserve (USAR)</p><p>Command, US Navy (USN), US Air Force (USAF), US Marine Corps (USMC) and</p><p>other Service Commanders and Responsible Offices will retransmit this</p><p>message to all subordinate Commanders/Activities.</p><p>b. This message will be available on the Safety First Web Site located</p><p>on the TACOM Unique Logistics Support Applications (TULSA) portal within</p><p>twenty-four hours of transmission. Access to the Safety First Web Site</p><p>requires CAC Card authentication. You must first request access to the</p><p>Safety First Web Site. To request access click here</p><p><a href="https://tulsa.tacom.army.mil" target="_blank">https://tulsa.tacom.army.mil</a>. For assistance, email the TULSA Helpdesk at</p><p><a href="mailto:tacom-lcmc.ilsc_tulsa@mail.mil">tacom-lcmc.ilsc_tulsa@mail.mil</a>. The Safety First Web Site also has the</p><p>capability to email Safety and Maintenance messages directly to your inbox.</p><p>To subscribe to the mailing list, click on, E-Mail Subscriptions, on the</p><p>Navigation bar.</p><p></p><p>2. Issue: <strong>TACOM has become aware of units ordering 30 rd. commercial (i.e.</strong></p><p><strong>polymer, etc.) magazines for their M4/M16 family of weapons. The M4/M16 Army</strong></p><p><strong>authorized magazines are the following: NSN 1005-00-561-7200 (improved</strong></p><p><strong>magazine) and NSN 1005-00-921-5004 (older magazine; use until exhaustion).</strong></p><p></p><p>3. User Actions: TM 9-1005-319-10, the Additional Authorized List (AAL),</p><p>states that NSN 1005-00-921-5004 is authorized, as well as NSN</p><p>1005-00-561-7200. Units may use the older magazine NSN 1005-00-921-5004</p><p>with the green follower until exhausted. The improved magazine is available</p><p>in stock, NSN 1005-00-561-7200, and has a tan follower. The improved</p><p>magazine features an improved follower and follower spring. These new</p><p>features help to reduce the risk of magazine-related stoppages. <strong>Units are only authorized to use the Army authorized magazines listed in the technical manuals. Remember; "tan-is the plan, green-start to lean, black-take it</strong></p><p><strong>back." Magazines with the black follower are the oldest and should be turned</strong></p><p><strong>in to your unit supply sergeant or local supply point.</strong></p><p></p><p>4. Unit Commanders, contact your local TACOM LCMC Logistics Assistance</p><p>Representative (LAR) or your State Surface Maintenance Manager upon receipt</p><p>of this message for assistance. For assistance in locating your TACOM LCMC</p><p>LAR, see below.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SMS, post: 1788051, member: 42"] Interesting note relative to the thread. Big Green has issued official policy forbidding the use of any magazines other than the authorized NSNs (Pmags do not have one of the authorized NSNs). It's not quality driven in regards to Pmags...but it is, at least partially, as a result of other sub standard after market mags being used. Another aspect is Big Green's politics...TACOM didn't get funding to test the mag, TACOM didn't approve the mag, you can't use the mag! TACOM LCMC MI 12-021 M4-M16 Improved Magazine and the Use of Commercial Magazines Originator: /C=US/O=U.S. GOVERNMENT/OU=DOD/OU=ARMY/OU=ORGANIZATIONS/L=CONUS/L=WARREN MI/OU=TACOM/OU=TACOM SAFETYOFUSE(UC) DTG: 301307Z Apr 12 Precedence: PRIORITY DAC: General //UNCLASSIFIED// Subject: Maintenance Information (MI) Message, TACOM Life Cycle Management Command, (TACOM LCMC) Control No. MI: 12-039, M4/M16 Improved Magazine NSN 1005-01-561-7200, Part Number: 13021312, Cage Code: 19200, Old Magazine NSN 1005-00-921-5004, Part Number: 2411362962382, Cage Code: 13629, and the use of commercial magazines. End Items: M16A2 NSN 1005-01-128-9936, M16A3 NSN 1005-01-357-5112, M16A4 NSN 1005-01-383-2872, M4 NSN 1005-01-231-0973, and M4A1 NSN 1005-01-382-0953. 1. Distribution: a. This is a Maintenance Information (MI) Message. Commanders/Directors of Army Commands (ACOM)/Army Service Component Commands (ASCC)/Direct Reporting Units (DRU), Army National Guard (ARNG), US Army Reserve (USAR) Command, US Navy (USN), US Air Force (USAF), US Marine Corps (USMC) and other Service Commanders and Responsible Offices will retransmit this message to all subordinate Commanders/Activities. b. This message will be available on the Safety First Web Site located on the TACOM Unique Logistics Support Applications (TULSA) portal within twenty-four hours of transmission. Access to the Safety First Web Site requires CAC Card authentication. You must first request access to the Safety First Web Site. To request access click here [url]https://tulsa.tacom.army.mil[/url]. For assistance, email the TULSA Helpdesk at [email]tacom-lcmc.ilsc_tulsa@mail.mil[/email]. The Safety First Web Site also has the capability to email Safety and Maintenance messages directly to your inbox. To subscribe to the mailing list, click on, E-Mail Subscriptions, on the Navigation bar. 2. Issue: [B]TACOM has become aware of units ordering 30 rd. commercial (i.e. polymer, etc.) magazines for their M4/M16 family of weapons. The M4/M16 Army authorized magazines are the following: NSN 1005-00-561-7200 (improved magazine) and NSN 1005-00-921-5004 (older magazine; use until exhaustion).[/B] 3. User Actions: TM 9-1005-319-10, the Additional Authorized List (AAL), states that NSN 1005-00-921-5004 is authorized, as well as NSN 1005-00-561-7200. Units may use the older magazine NSN 1005-00-921-5004 with the green follower until exhausted. The improved magazine is available in stock, NSN 1005-00-561-7200, and has a tan follower. The improved magazine features an improved follower and follower spring. These new features help to reduce the risk of magazine-related stoppages. [B]Units are only authorized to use the Army authorized magazines listed in the technical manuals. Remember; "tan-is the plan, green-start to lean, black-take it back." Magazines with the black follower are the oldest and should be turned in to your unit supply sergeant or local supply point.[/B] 4. Unit Commanders, contact your local TACOM LCMC Logistics Assistance Representative (LAR) or your State Surface Maintenance Manager upon receipt of this message for assistance. For assistance in locating your TACOM LCMC LAR, see below. [/QUOTE]
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