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<blockquote data-quote="ez bake" data-source="post: 2056936" data-attributes="member: 229"><p>We can argue over proper use of "price-gouging", but I listed my definition of price gouging from dictionary.com in an earlier post and I'm just going by that. I never said the government price-fixed the gun-market, but there's no denying that passing a law that bans the sale/transfer/production/importation of thousands of firearms directly restrains the market (that is specifically an <u><strong>unjustified restraint on the market</strong></u> - see my previous post from dictionary.com earlier). The government will have intervened and regulated aspects of nearly the entire firearms market by passing any of the bills currently on the floor. Adjusting prices based on that unjustified restraint is price-gouging.</p><p></p><p>Let me state this another way. I am in no way in need of extra ammo or mags or AR parts (could more hurt... never, but I'm good for a very long time). I'm not screaming for the government to intervene, nor am I advocating price-fixing or anything to combat the affects of the government's actions by way of legislation to completely stop production of thousands of guns/accessories. </p><p></p><p>I've been tempted myself to sell what I have for a nice price-gouging profit, but I know that if I do - I'm contributing to the panic and fear. That's completely my right and nobody can tell me I'm not allowed to do that. I can even do it on this website, but if I do, I'm subject to the opinion of the community - and I can't ***** or whine about how everyone's treating me differently or calling me out for it. People are free to say what they will about me and I would absolutely expect some relationships to be soured over it. I probably wouldn't receive the same free advice I used to (at least for a while) and I would probably end up on some folks' lists of people not to do business with.</p><p></p><p>At that point, I'd have made my bed and left myself with no other choice. </p><p></p><p>Like I said, informing consumers about who is over-charging (based on what is still available and where) is part of consumer's rights in a free market. So in the end, I hope some of these gun-shops and members realize that they might be hurting themselves in the long run if they're over-charging to the point of upsetting their own customers. If they don't care about this community other than profiting from it, then I hope folks continue calling them out for it and they eventually leave.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that another side-affect of this is new gun folks who are ignorant about guns and desperate (as they may not have any guns of their own) also vote - and welcoming them to the community by profiteering at their expense is a good way to get them to run away from the gun community and vote against the 2nd.</p><p></p><p>I'm just saying that there are many consequences to what is happening right now. We should consider all of them before acting in the interest of short-term profit with a "future-be-damned" attitude.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ez bake, post: 2056936, member: 229"] We can argue over proper use of "price-gouging", but I listed my definition of price gouging from dictionary.com in an earlier post and I'm just going by that. I never said the government price-fixed the gun-market, but there's no denying that passing a law that bans the sale/transfer/production/importation of thousands of firearms directly restrains the market (that is specifically an [U][B]unjustified restraint on the market[/B][/U] - see my previous post from dictionary.com earlier). The government will have intervened and regulated aspects of nearly the entire firearms market by passing any of the bills currently on the floor. Adjusting prices based on that unjustified restraint is price-gouging. Let me state this another way. I am in no way in need of extra ammo or mags or AR parts (could more hurt... never, but I'm good for a very long time). I'm not screaming for the government to intervene, nor am I advocating price-fixing or anything to combat the affects of the government's actions by way of legislation to completely stop production of thousands of guns/accessories. I've been tempted myself to sell what I have for a nice price-gouging profit, but I know that if I do - I'm contributing to the panic and fear. That's completely my right and nobody can tell me I'm not allowed to do that. I can even do it on this website, but if I do, I'm subject to the opinion of the community - and I can't ***** or whine about how everyone's treating me differently or calling me out for it. People are free to say what they will about me and I would absolutely expect some relationships to be soured over it. I probably wouldn't receive the same free advice I used to (at least for a while) and I would probably end up on some folks' lists of people not to do business with. At that point, I'd have made my bed and left myself with no other choice. Like I said, informing consumers about who is over-charging (based on what is still available and where) is part of consumer's rights in a free market. So in the end, I hope some of these gun-shops and members realize that they might be hurting themselves in the long run if they're over-charging to the point of upsetting their own customers. If they don't care about this community other than profiting from it, then I hope folks continue calling them out for it and they eventually leave. Keep in mind that another side-affect of this is new gun folks who are ignorant about guns and desperate (as they may not have any guns of their own) also vote - and welcoming them to the community by profiteering at their expense is a good way to get them to run away from the gun community and vote against the 2nd. I'm just saying that there are many consequences to what is happening right now. We should consider all of them before acting in the interest of short-term profit with a "future-be-damned" attitude. [/QUOTE]
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