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<blockquote data-quote="HeyEng" data-source="post: 3412345" data-attributes="member: 44022"><p>Often folks will ask me to "generally" explain the law. 90% of the time that's difficult to do because it's written by a bunch of idiots that is changed/watered down/changed again and passed back and forth between both houses of Congress and several committees before it's passed. And then, there are lawsuits that challenge or question the law and then case law is created by activist judges that is either upheld or remanded back to the lower courts by an activist appellate court. So, even the "clearest" of the laws aren't so clear when it comes to YOUR CASE...which often is novel and hasn't been addressed by the court before. And if you guessed that this can cause problems for you, then you win a prize from the state fair. But, you can't redeem it this year. Sorry. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Instead, I direct them to the uniform jury instructions. I could ramble for hours about this, but it's the clearest way to explain law to a layman that I have found and it's quite useful even for attorneys. A lot of folks in the practice of law get wrapped up in what THEY think is right and lose sight of the entire fact pattern and that is a recipe for disaster. If they instead look at a case through the eyes of the jury...it can help...a little. Anyway, here is a link to Oklahoma's jury instructions. It can be quite enlightening.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/index.asp?ftdb=STOKJU&level=1" target="_blank">https://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/index.asp?ftdb=STOKJU&level=1</a></p><p></p><p>-edit: He will have no issue finding a very, VERY good team of attorneys. The best ones out there salivate over cases like this. However, don't think that might be YOUR case and personally, I don't want to face a jury FOR ANYTHING..even if I had OJ's "dream team"...it's still way, WAY too risky.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HeyEng, post: 3412345, member: 44022"] Often folks will ask me to "generally" explain the law. 90% of the time that's difficult to do because it's written by a bunch of idiots that is changed/watered down/changed again and passed back and forth between both houses of Congress and several committees before it's passed. And then, there are lawsuits that challenge or question the law and then case law is created by activist judges that is either upheld or remanded back to the lower courts by an activist appellate court. So, even the "clearest" of the laws aren't so clear when it comes to YOUR CASE...which often is novel and hasn't been addressed by the court before. And if you guessed that this can cause problems for you, then you win a prize from the state fair. But, you can't redeem it this year. Sorry. :) Instead, I direct them to the uniform jury instructions. I could ramble for hours about this, but it's the clearest way to explain law to a layman that I have found and it's quite useful even for attorneys. A lot of folks in the practice of law get wrapped up in what THEY think is right and lose sight of the entire fact pattern and that is a recipe for disaster. If they instead look at a case through the eyes of the jury...it can help...a little. Anyway, here is a link to Oklahoma's jury instructions. It can be quite enlightening. [URL]https://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/index.asp?ftdb=STOKJU&level=1[/URL] -edit: He will have no issue finding a very, VERY good team of attorneys. The best ones out there salivate over cases like this. However, don't think that might be YOUR case and personally, I don't want to face a jury FOR ANYTHING..even if I had OJ's "dream team"...it's still way, WAY too risky. [/QUOTE]
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