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<blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 3304060" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>Again, if you let the slide run forward after the last round has fired have you not slammed it home on an empty chamber?</p><p>I've been intrigued on this as my 1911 with a tuned trigger has been through thousands of rounds firing on an empty chamber, and like the video on Post #2, it's never had any issues.</p><p>Let me give an example of internet posts.</p><p>"The problem with dropping the slide on an empty chamber is that there is no round (or snap-cap. They'll work fine, too) coming out of the magazine to keep everything working just right. The design relies heavily on the presence of the cartridge.</p><p></p><p>When you drop the slide without a round, nothing stops the parts from banging against each other. The hammer and sear go bouncing around and will begin to tear each other apart. When that happens, those carefully prepared engagement surfaces smack against each other, and your expensive trigger job is literally scraped right off the sear and hammer.</p><p></p><p>When you rack the slide, as long as you're providing it some guidance with your off hand, you will not cause anything but normal wear, and it takes a WHOLE LOT of hand cycling to wear out a properly lubed gun. You don't need to let it forward a millimeter at a time, just give it some drag so that it doesn't slam into battery without a cartridge."</p><p></p><p>So looking at this intelligence of the above post, the poster says the design relies heavily on the presence of a cartridge. What happens when you run out of ammo and the 1911 slams on an empty chamber? Your sear is going to be wasted?</p><p></p><p>Then the guy says when you drop the slide nothing stops the parts from banging against each other.</p><p> What? Has that guy never heard of lubrication and machining tolerances in the .001 range or smaller?</p><p> Your car engine would last 1 minute without lubrication. With lube, it last how many cycles in its 300,000 mile lifetime? Why? because lubrication is like a shock absorber.</p><p></p><p>You don't need to let a 1911 off slide lock like some cinderella princess.</p><p>Lube it up and play.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dennishoddy, post: 3304060, member: 5412"] Again, if you let the slide run forward after the last round has fired have you not slammed it home on an empty chamber? I've been intrigued on this as my 1911 with a tuned trigger has been through thousands of rounds firing on an empty chamber, and like the video on Post #2, it's never had any issues. Let me give an example of internet posts. "The problem with dropping the slide on an empty chamber is that there is no round (or snap-cap. They'll work fine, too) coming out of the magazine to keep everything working just right. The design relies heavily on the presence of the cartridge. When you drop the slide without a round, nothing stops the parts from banging against each other. The hammer and sear go bouncing around and will begin to tear each other apart. When that happens, those carefully prepared engagement surfaces smack against each other, and your expensive trigger job is literally scraped right off the sear and hammer. When you rack the slide, as long as you're providing it some guidance with your off hand, you will not cause anything but normal wear, and it takes a WHOLE LOT of hand cycling to wear out a properly lubed gun. You don't need to let it forward a millimeter at a time, just give it some drag so that it doesn't slam into battery without a cartridge." So looking at this intelligence of the above post, the poster says the design relies heavily on the presence of a cartridge. What happens when you run out of ammo and the 1911 slams on an empty chamber? Your sear is going to be wasted? Then the guy says when you drop the slide nothing stops the parts from banging against each other. What? Has that guy never heard of lubrication and machining tolerances in the .001 range or smaller? Your car engine would last 1 minute without lubrication. With lube, it last how many cycles in its 300,000 mile lifetime? Why? because lubrication is like a shock absorber. You don't need to let a 1911 off slide lock like some cinderella princess. Lube it up and play. [/QUOTE]
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