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<blockquote data-quote="gerhard1" data-source="post: 3240263" data-attributes="member: 5391"><p>Dennis, I can certainly see what you are saying here, and like I said in the OP, I can understand and even agree with the reasoning behind some of it. Granted that ranges have to 'dumb' things down, and I'm not certain that that is the right term here, for rank beginners. </p><p></p><p>My point is that these range rules, however good they are, still inhibit defensive style shooters. In a fight, you do as you have been conditioned to do, and if rapid shooting is discouraged, or drawing from the holster is forbidden by the range rules, how will you fare in a fight? In short, the range rules might make good sport shooters, but may not serve defensive shooters as well as they do target shooters. </p><p></p><p>Let me ask you this, if I might: do you think that someone is prepared to defend themselves just because they do well at a traditional range setting? Does learning to punch holes in paper with great precision with a very generous time allowance serve the defensive shooter? Which is in a better position to defend him (or her) self, a person who can shoot a two-inch group in a minute, or the guy who can shoot a six-inch group at the same distance in ten seconds?</p><p></p><p>I hope I'm not coming across as overly critical of target ranges; that's not my intention. But many people think that just because they can shoot a tiny group at a target range, with mild mid-range loads, and generous time allowance, this makes them prepared to carry and protect themselves, and this is what concerns me. On the street, movement can be a vital skill and shooting while moving even more so. On the street, you'll likely have much heavier ammunition that recoils more and what's more, I doubt that hearing protection will be worn. Ranges are usually well-lighted and on the streets the encounter will probably be in the dark.</p><p></p><p>Yet I'd bet that these factors are not emphasized at most gun clubs. Part of it is insurance requirements and part of it is they have to allow for the lowest common denominator. Some of it is public relations, as well, I'd venture, as in the Cheney range in Kansas not allowing IDPA type targets. I heard that someone had to remove the heads before they could be used.</p><p></p><p>Gun cubs and ranges are great things to have; they are real assets in a community, but these range rules don't often allow defensive-style shooters to develop the skills they need and this concerns me greatly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gerhard1, post: 3240263, member: 5391"] Dennis, I can certainly see what you are saying here, and like I said in the OP, I can understand and even agree with the reasoning behind some of it. Granted that ranges have to 'dumb' things down, and I'm not certain that that is the right term here, for rank beginners. My point is that these range rules, however good they are, still inhibit defensive style shooters. In a fight, you do as you have been conditioned to do, and if rapid shooting is discouraged, or drawing from the holster is forbidden by the range rules, how will you fare in a fight? In short, the range rules might make good sport shooters, but may not serve defensive shooters as well as they do target shooters. Let me ask you this, if I might: do you think that someone is prepared to defend themselves just because they do well at a traditional range setting? Does learning to punch holes in paper with great precision with a very generous time allowance serve the defensive shooter? Which is in a better position to defend him (or her) self, a person who can shoot a two-inch group in a minute, or the guy who can shoot a six-inch group at the same distance in ten seconds? I hope I'm not coming across as overly critical of target ranges; that's not my intention. But many people think that just because they can shoot a tiny group at a target range, with mild mid-range loads, and generous time allowance, this makes them prepared to carry and protect themselves, and this is what concerns me. On the street, movement can be a vital skill and shooting while moving even more so. On the street, you'll likely have much heavier ammunition that recoils more and what's more, I doubt that hearing protection will be worn. Ranges are usually well-lighted and on the streets the encounter will probably be in the dark. Yet I'd bet that these factors are not emphasized at most gun clubs. Part of it is insurance requirements and part of it is they have to allow for the lowest common denominator. Some of it is public relations, as well, I'd venture, as in the Cheney range in Kansas not allowing IDPA type targets. I heard that someone had to remove the heads before they could be used. Gun cubs and ranges are great things to have; they are real assets in a community, but these range rules don't often allow defensive-style shooters to develop the skills they need and this concerns me greatly. [/QUOTE]
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