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<blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 3550152" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>Agree 100%. I've been shooting USPSA and Steel Challenge for about 10 years now. Posted earlier about how worthless lasers are in daylight conditions, green or red. Put that laser on a wall and see how much wiggle you have. The same issue is going on with irons. </p><p> With aging eyes, I'm pretty much 100% red dot now, rifle and pistol in competition. Rear sight, front sight, and target can't get together anymore. Everyone will get there eventually, some earlier than others, but you will get there. </p><p>Target acquisition with the dot does require repetitive/continuous training when bringing the firearm to the eye after the draw quickly. Most firearms have a different bore axis or grip angle so moving among different platforms can cause one to need to search for the dot. </p><p>Always been a proponent of keeping the same platform in your repertoire be it glock or 1911 so one can gain consistency in using that grip angle, etc. </p><p> </p><p>I do believe a laser has value in home defense when awakened in the middle of the night with a crash and someone coming down the hallway. Especially when your in fog of waking up, needing to put on glasses, etc.</p><p> When used in combo with a high lumen WML to blind the victim and the dot centered on the target that combo should be effective. Actually practiced that because that would be my scenario in our home. Practice so you know what's coming. </p><p>Lasers like any sight that is above the bore will have different POI at different ranges for a lot of reasons most new people don't think of. Ballistics, gravity, drop and so on. If sighted in at hallway ranges, nobody is going to be on target at 50 yards. Bullets don't fly like lasers shine. </p><p> That's the reason I dedicate lasers to the conditions and ranges they might be used in, home defense only in close quarters.</p><p>Good to see your range is putting on good training classes. The shooting community needs more of this offered and more shooters to take advantage of these programs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dennishoddy, post: 3550152, member: 5412"] Agree 100%. I've been shooting USPSA and Steel Challenge for about 10 years now. Posted earlier about how worthless lasers are in daylight conditions, green or red. Put that laser on a wall and see how much wiggle you have. The same issue is going on with irons. With aging eyes, I'm pretty much 100% red dot now, rifle and pistol in competition. Rear sight, front sight, and target can't get together anymore. Everyone will get there eventually, some earlier than others, but you will get there. Target acquisition with the dot does require repetitive/continuous training when bringing the firearm to the eye after the draw quickly. Most firearms have a different bore axis or grip angle so moving among different platforms can cause one to need to search for the dot. Always been a proponent of keeping the same platform in your repertoire be it glock or 1911 so one can gain consistency in using that grip angle, etc. I do believe a laser has value in home defense when awakened in the middle of the night with a crash and someone coming down the hallway. Especially when your in fog of waking up, needing to put on glasses, etc. When used in combo with a high lumen WML to blind the victim and the dot centered on the target that combo should be effective. Actually practiced that because that would be my scenario in our home. Practice so you know what's coming. Lasers like any sight that is above the bore will have different POI at different ranges for a lot of reasons most new people don't think of. Ballistics, gravity, drop and so on. If sighted in at hallway ranges, nobody is going to be on target at 50 yards. Bullets don't fly like lasers shine. That's the reason I dedicate lasers to the conditions and ranges they might be used in, home defense only in close quarters. Good to see your range is putting on good training classes. The shooting community needs more of this offered and more shooters to take advantage of these programs. [/QUOTE]
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