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<blockquote data-quote="NikatKimber" data-source="post: 1379291" data-attributes="member: 423"><p>ezb, don't know how critical the 168gr load is to you, but using the 145gr FMJBT mil bullets from wideners, I come up with $0.30/rd also. That is however buying 2k bullets at a time.</p><p></p><p>Using 168gr BTHP mil bullets also from Wideners, and Fed Match primers, I find $0.34/rd. </p><p></p><p>Both loads using once fired lake city brass from Wideners, and assuming you can get 5 loads from each piece of brass. And if you're not pushing the limits of load/pressure, that isn't too much to expect.</p><p></p><p>Push that up to 168gr Sierra MatchKings, Lapua brass, and still only $0.52/rd.</p><p></p><p>Put Lapua 167gr Scenars in it, and it'll cost you! All of $0.55/rd.</p><p></p><p>Going with the premium reload @ $0.55 / rd, comparing that to the FGMM 168gr load you mentioned @ $1.00 / rd, there is a savings of $0.45 / rd.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=3915&dir=210|216|259" target="_blank">Redding T7 Press</a> = $215</p><p><a href="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=792423" target="_blank">Redding Competition 3 Die Set</a> = $204.99</p><p><a href="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=479187" target="_blank">Redding Shellholder #1</a> = $7.89</p><p><a href="http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=3920&dir=210|216|260" target="_blank">Redding 3BR Powder Measure</a> = $119</p><p><a href="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=481398" target="_blank">RCBS Power Case Trimmer</a> = $249.99</p><p></p><p>Add $50 for miscellaneous funnels/loading blocks/ case lube / primer trays etc.</p><p></p><p>Total, $846.87 </p><p></p><p>Number of rounds to pay off equipment = 1882</p><p>Keep in mind, that's premium equipment and competition dies.</p><p></p><p>Going with the 168gr mil bullet @ $0.34 / rd, comparing that to the AE 168gr load you mentioned @ $0.72 / rd, there is a savings of $0.38 / rd.</p><p></p><p>And take a different route to get into reloading.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=151386" target="_blank">Hornady LnL single stage kit </a>= $319.99</p><p><a href="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=648094" target="_blank">Hornady 2 Die Set</a> = $30.99</p><p><a href="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=389298" target="_blank">Hornady Bushing Neck Sizer Die</a> = $37.57</p><p><a href="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=315831" target="_blank">Hornady Cam-Lock Case Trimmer Kit</a> = $64.99</p><p></p><p>Total Cost: $453.54</p><p>Number of rounds to pay off equipment = 1194</p><p>Personally, that equipment along with taking care to check components and loaded rounds for consistency would probably be capable of beating FGMM on accuracy, especially if you also took the time to tailor your load to your gun.</p><p></p><p>Or, as I've shown before, if you want to get into reloading on the cheap, get a Lee kit, good bang for the buck.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=423081" target="_blank">Lee Single Stage Kit</a> = $91.99</p><p><a href="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=148525" target="_blank">Lee Dlx 3 Die Set</a> = $28.99</p><p><a href="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=755364" target="_blank">Lyman Accutrimmer Kit</a> = $41.49</p><p></p><p>Add $25 for miscellaneous loading blocks/ case lube etc.</p><p></p><p>Total Cost: $187.47</p><p>Number of rounds to pay off equipment = 494</p><p></p><p>Since time is a big concern to you, you could for not much more $, upgrade to a Lee Turret, and then have the option of auto indexing. The indexing mechanism is simple to remove, and you could use it as a standard turret.</p><p></p><p>If you index with a single case, and set up an automatic powder feed, you not only save the time of installing/removing dies from the press, but also handling the cases after each operation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NikatKimber, post: 1379291, member: 423"] ezb, don't know how critical the 168gr load is to you, but using the 145gr FMJBT mil bullets from wideners, I come up with $0.30/rd also. That is however buying 2k bullets at a time. Using 168gr BTHP mil bullets also from Wideners, and Fed Match primers, I find $0.34/rd. Both loads using once fired lake city brass from Wideners, and assuming you can get 5 loads from each piece of brass. And if you're not pushing the limits of load/pressure, that isn't too much to expect. Push that up to 168gr Sierra MatchKings, Lapua brass, and still only $0.52/rd. Put Lapua 167gr Scenars in it, and it'll cost you! All of $0.55/rd. Going with the premium reload @ $0.55 / rd, comparing that to the FGMM 168gr load you mentioned @ $1.00 / rd, there is a savings of $0.45 / rd. [URL="http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=3915&dir=210|216|259"]Redding T7 Press[/URL] = $215 [URL="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=792423"]Redding Competition 3 Die Set[/URL] = $204.99 [URL="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=479187"]Redding Shellholder #1[/URL] = $7.89 [URL="http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=3920&dir=210|216|260"]Redding 3BR Powder Measure[/URL] = $119 [URL="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=481398"]RCBS Power Case Trimmer[/URL] = $249.99 Add $50 for miscellaneous funnels/loading blocks/ case lube / primer trays etc. Total, $846.87 Number of rounds to pay off equipment = 1882 Keep in mind, that's premium equipment and competition dies. Going with the 168gr mil bullet @ $0.34 / rd, comparing that to the AE 168gr load you mentioned @ $0.72 / rd, there is a savings of $0.38 / rd. And take a different route to get into reloading. [URL="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=151386"]Hornady LnL single stage kit [/URL]= $319.99 [URL="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=648094"]Hornady 2 Die Set[/URL] = $30.99 [URL="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=389298"]Hornady Bushing Neck Sizer Die[/URL] = $37.57 [URL="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=315831"]Hornady Cam-Lock Case Trimmer Kit[/URL] = $64.99 Total Cost: $453.54 Number of rounds to pay off equipment = 1194 Personally, that equipment along with taking care to check components and loaded rounds for consistency would probably be capable of beating FGMM on accuracy, especially if you also took the time to tailor your load to your gun. Or, as I've shown before, if you want to get into reloading on the cheap, get a Lee kit, good bang for the buck. [URL="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=423081"]Lee Single Stage Kit[/URL] = $91.99 [URL="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=148525"]Lee Dlx 3 Die Set[/URL] = $28.99 [URL="http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=755364"]Lyman Accutrimmer Kit[/URL] = $41.49 Add $25 for miscellaneous loading blocks/ case lube etc. Total Cost: $187.47 Number of rounds to pay off equipment = 494 Since time is a big concern to you, you could for not much more $, upgrade to a Lee Turret, and then have the option of auto indexing. The indexing mechanism is simple to remove, and you could use it as a standard turret. If you index with a single case, and set up an automatic powder feed, you not only save the time of installing/removing dies from the press, but also handling the cases after each operation. [/QUOTE]
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