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<blockquote data-quote="boomerPI" data-source="post: 912137" data-attributes="member: 9749"><p>I agree that there is not enough here to be disturbing to me. I, too have been through LEO contact since I received my CCL. Two contacts, the officers didn't even give me time enough to verbally inform them that I had a weapon ... they walked up and started asking questions or simply requested my DL and InsVer. I did provide them the opportunity to see my CCL as I handed them my documents and I figured if they did want to know any more about whether or not I was carrying at the time, they had been properly notified and the next move was up to them.</p><p></p><p>The third time, the officer came up with an attitude about my driving and accused me of something I did not do and I disputed his statement as I handed him my documents, again with my CCL in plain view. He took the documents, came back and issued me a warning only.</p><p></p><p>I had another situation in which I had consumed a couple of beers and had secured the weapon in my vehicle. The officer had asked if I was armed and I told him that the weapon was in the vehicle. He did not see any need to take any further action and the weapon stayed in the vehicle. When the contact was over, I asked if it was OK with the officer if I retrieved my cell phone from the vehicle to make a call. He said yes. I reached in and tried to unclip the cell phone from the strap of the gun bag, but ended up yanking the bag out on the snow in front of the officer. He looked at the bag, looked at me where I was standing frozen with my hands to my side. I told the officer, "You might want to pick that up." He asked if the gun was in it and I said yes. He picked it up and walked to the other unit. They unloaded the gun, ran the serial, then I could hear them talking about how nice it looked. When everything came back clear, they returned the gun to my hand and we all left the scene.</p><p></p><p>I consider all four of these contacts to be positive for all of us involved.</p><p></p><p>As with the Shreveport stop, we all walked away safe. In a close contact situation such as these stops, officer safety does take precedence. When the gun bag landed on the snow, I made a conscious decision to allow the officer to handle the gun. I could have acted like it was just a fanny pack and picked it up myself, but I felt that would have been disengenuous (sp?) of me and my desire for LEO to have no doubts of my verasity the next time we might have contact.</p><p></p><p>There will always be a give and take between citizens and law enforcement. We are all still trying out the boundrys of an armed citizenry and some LEO are going through a major adjustment in how they perceive that armed citizen. In the past, most of their contacts with armed citizens was of a confrontational nature, and suddenly it's not in all cases.</p><p></p><p>As CCL armed citizens, how we respond and react during LEO contact will help shape each officer's perceptions of whether or not Concealed Carry is a good thing. I'm not saying to let LEO walk all over you about the gun, but give it a little thought and be prepared. The officer you convert today may be the advocate of tomorrow.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="boomerPI, post: 912137, member: 9749"] I agree that there is not enough here to be disturbing to me. I, too have been through LEO contact since I received my CCL. Two contacts, the officers didn't even give me time enough to verbally inform them that I had a weapon ... they walked up and started asking questions or simply requested my DL and InsVer. I did provide them the opportunity to see my CCL as I handed them my documents and I figured if they did want to know any more about whether or not I was carrying at the time, they had been properly notified and the next move was up to them. The third time, the officer came up with an attitude about my driving and accused me of something I did not do and I disputed his statement as I handed him my documents, again with my CCL in plain view. He took the documents, came back and issued me a warning only. I had another situation in which I had consumed a couple of beers and had secured the weapon in my vehicle. The officer had asked if I was armed and I told him that the weapon was in the vehicle. He did not see any need to take any further action and the weapon stayed in the vehicle. When the contact was over, I asked if it was OK with the officer if I retrieved my cell phone from the vehicle to make a call. He said yes. I reached in and tried to unclip the cell phone from the strap of the gun bag, but ended up yanking the bag out on the snow in front of the officer. He looked at the bag, looked at me where I was standing frozen with my hands to my side. I told the officer, "You might want to pick that up." He asked if the gun was in it and I said yes. He picked it up and walked to the other unit. They unloaded the gun, ran the serial, then I could hear them talking about how nice it looked. When everything came back clear, they returned the gun to my hand and we all left the scene. I consider all four of these contacts to be positive for all of us involved. As with the Shreveport stop, we all walked away safe. In a close contact situation such as these stops, officer safety does take precedence. When the gun bag landed on the snow, I made a conscious decision to allow the officer to handle the gun. I could have acted like it was just a fanny pack and picked it up myself, but I felt that would have been disengenuous (sp?) of me and my desire for LEO to have no doubts of my verasity the next time we might have contact. There will always be a give and take between citizens and law enforcement. We are all still trying out the boundrys of an armed citizenry and some LEO are going through a major adjustment in how they perceive that armed citizen. In the past, most of their contacts with armed citizens was of a confrontational nature, and suddenly it's not in all cases. As CCL armed citizens, how we respond and react during LEO contact will help shape each officer's perceptions of whether or not Concealed Carry is a good thing. I'm not saying to let LEO walk all over you about the gun, but give it a little thought and be prepared. The officer you convert today may be the advocate of tomorrow. [/QUOTE]
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