I think you answered the question in your first paragraph with the statement in your second. Consumers aren't the ones letting Remington fade into the sunset. Does Remington currently produce anything that is not available with equal or better quality from another manufacturer? I'm at the point that I pass over Remington products because it's not worth trying to keep track of which Remington products have issues and which don't. The only exception for me is probably the 870. I'd buy a used 870 without hesitation.